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This is a course put on by NOLS. I know that they are reputable for outdoor skills and leadership, but my question is has anyone been to one of these events?
It seems to me, based on their curricullum that the price is over inflated (@2000 minimum depending on which expedition you choose - hiking, sailing, or rafting)
You get 16 hours of Cat I CMEs. I haven't yet had to pay for any CMEs, so please chime in if you feel that this is a ridiculous cost.
Also it mentions something about credits for the "Fellowship of the
Academy of Wilderness medicine." I've been doing internet searches and can't really find what the "fellowship" is.
Would I be better off taking a $500 W-EMT class
Here is a course curricullum sample from a hiking expedition
Upon completion of the Wind River Range Backpacking Expedition the student will be able to, in a wilderness
setting:
• Perform a patient assessment; manage life threats and scene safety
• Manage head, spine and musculoskeletal injury with minimal equipment
• Manage emergencies due to heat and cold
• Understand the utility and limits of ALS in the wilderness
• Prepare a reasonable pack with essential medical and personal gear for 24 hours in the wilderness
• Organize, lead and participate in a simulated wilderness litter evacuation
• Dress appropriately for the weather encountered on this expedition
• Cook nutritious meals using a camp stove and field rations
• Demonstrate campsite selection and shelter use skills
• Navigate in mountain terrain with map, compass and GPS
• Travel off-trail in mountain terrain
• Consistently perform sound leave-no-trace skills
• Demonstrate basic ability to manage risks including: rock fall, steep terrain, stream crossing, bear
avoidance, lightning and adverse weather
• Demonstrate sound expedition behavior including modeling teamwork, support of group decision and a
positive attitude during adversity
• Show leadership with peers using styles appropriate to the situation
• Demonstrate sound judgment and decision-making
...Course Cost
$2200. Includes lodging 8/28-9/5; transportation during the course; course faculty; instruction and materials; 16
hours of category 1 CME's or 16 hours of EMT CEUs, and up to 28 hours credit towards the Fellowship of the
Academy of Wilderness medicine
I'm an avid rock climber with a good deal of experience in nature... and half of these bullet points, I can safely say, I don't need training on.
I understand that this is probably an overrated, overpriced "expedition," but I am wondering if anyone might be able to point out some positive aspects about this, that would actually make it worth the money??
It seems to me, based on their curricullum that the price is over inflated (@2000 minimum depending on which expedition you choose - hiking, sailing, or rafting)
You get 16 hours of Cat I CMEs. I haven't yet had to pay for any CMEs, so please chime in if you feel that this is a ridiculous cost.
Also it mentions something about credits for the "Fellowship of the
Academy of Wilderness medicine." I've been doing internet searches and can't really find what the "fellowship" is.
Would I be better off taking a $500 W-EMT class
Here is a course curricullum sample from a hiking expedition
Upon completion of the Wind River Range Backpacking Expedition the student will be able to, in a wilderness
setting:
• Perform a patient assessment; manage life threats and scene safety
• Manage head, spine and musculoskeletal injury with minimal equipment
• Manage emergencies due to heat and cold
• Understand the utility and limits of ALS in the wilderness
• Prepare a reasonable pack with essential medical and personal gear for 24 hours in the wilderness
• Organize, lead and participate in a simulated wilderness litter evacuation
• Dress appropriately for the weather encountered on this expedition
• Cook nutritious meals using a camp stove and field rations
• Demonstrate campsite selection and shelter use skills
• Navigate in mountain terrain with map, compass and GPS
• Travel off-trail in mountain terrain
• Consistently perform sound leave-no-trace skills
• Demonstrate basic ability to manage risks including: rock fall, steep terrain, stream crossing, bear
avoidance, lightning and adverse weather
• Demonstrate sound expedition behavior including modeling teamwork, support of group decision and a
positive attitude during adversity
• Show leadership with peers using styles appropriate to the situation
• Demonstrate sound judgment and decision-making
...Course Cost
$2200. Includes lodging 8/28-9/5; transportation during the course; course faculty; instruction and materials; 16
hours of category 1 CME's or 16 hours of EMT CEUs, and up to 28 hours credit towards the Fellowship of the
Academy of Wilderness medicine
I'm an avid rock climber with a good deal of experience in nature... and half of these bullet points, I can safely say, I don't need training on.
I understand that this is probably an overrated, overpriced "expedition," but I am wondering if anyone might be able to point out some positive aspects about this, that would actually make it worth the money??