the 100% directionless thread

[Fezman92]

Well I’m having an interesting start to the day. First transport is a deceased person going to the morgue. They don’t have any trucks to send out so we’re transporting. The deceased was a ward of the state and even though no one has to sit in the back with them, I’m still going to because it just doesn’t seem right leaving them back there by themselves if that makes any sense.

edit: never mind, AC doesn’t work in the back, I’m sitting up front.

 

[Tigger]

Well I’m having an interesting start to the day. First transport is a deceased person going to the morgue. They don’t have any trucks to send out so we’re transporting. The deceased was a ward of the state and even though no one has to sit in the back with them, I’m still going to because it just doesn’t seem right leaving them back there by themselves if that makes any sense.

What do you think the coroner and funeral home staff do?

 

[Fezman92]

Read my edit.

 

[ffemt8978]

jim said is wasn’t one of the Max jets. I think they’re still grounded?

Misunderstood that part...my bad

 

[E tank]

What do you think the coroner and funeral home staff do?

They don't have bench seats...still, it was an honorable sentiment....

 

[Fezman92]

Thanks. The lack of working AC is no bueno. I just didn’t want to show up to the rest of the calls smelling like sweat.

 

[CCCSD]

Thanks. The lack of working AC is no bueno. I just didn’t want to show up to the rest of the calls smelling like sweat.

Wait till one sits up on you…

 

[Akulahawk]

Waking up to news reports that a 737 crashed off Oahu last night

Turns out yes a 737-200 (not one of the MAX planes) cargo plane developed engine trouble and was trying to return to the airport when it went down.

Only 2 crewmembers onboard, both successfully rescued, one by Coast Guard helicopter flown straight to the hospital, the other by FD rescue boat, transferred to ground ambulance.

So whew. But still... the news has just been full of WTF?! lately...

2 pilots rescued after Boeing 737 cargo plane crashes in water shortly after takeoff from Honolulu

The NTSB is sending a team of 10 investigators, including specialists in wreckage recovery, to Oahu in the wake of the crash.

www.hawaiinewsnow.com

I watched a couple reports about that crash. From what I gather, it sounds like the jet lost an engine and lost the other one pretty quickly as it was losing thrust. The airplane never was able to maintain an altitude or airspeed on the remaining engine. That engine was probably running too hot and when that happens, turbines start eating themselves and once that happens, airflow through the engine slows, temps rise, and thrust drops. I suspect had they chosen to stay closer to the field (keep it in sight) they probably could have completed their checklists and probably would have been able to land with that failing engine still producing thrust.

The best call of the night was getting the USCG alerted as early as they did. One of the pilots was actively trying not to drown. The swimmer rescued him and got him hoisted up. The other pilot was floating on some cargo debris and was dragged by the swimmer to a rescue boat. Getting the boat crew going before the crash also was a good call.

 

[Jim37F]

Yeah, they're talking about how rare it is to lose both engines like that.

And how incredible it was to ditch such a large heavy airplane into the ocean at night, and have both crew rescued, ditching like that is essentially the nightmare scenario, rarely ends anything remotely "well".

But if you gotta ditch, doing so 3 miles away from the USCG air station with HH65 and HC130 right there (plus the Cutters a few more miles away towards town) is pretty much the best place you can do so.

 

[Fezman92]

Why is a sternum rub considered assault?

 

[GMCmedic]

Why is a sternum rub considered assault?

Need more context.

Is performing a sternal rub on an unconscious person to determine AVPU assault? No.

Is performing a sternal rub on an awake person 5 times while laughing maniacally assault? Yes.

 

[Fezman92]

I was told that even if you use it on an unconscious person, even to determine AVPU, it may be considered assault.

 

[E tank]

I was told that even if you use it on an unconscious person, even to determine AVPU, it may be considered assault.

Hate to think what intubating someone would be considered then...

 

[Fezman92]

I just don’t see how doing it for legitimate reasons would be considered assault.

 

[GMCmedic]

I just don’t see how doing it for legitimate reasons would be considered assault.

People in EMS (life in general) tend to regurgitate things they've heard without actually verifying them.

 

[Fezman92]

Hence my question.

 

[PotatoMedic]

Hate to think what intubating someone would be considered then...

Kinky... It would be considered kinky.

 

[NomadicMedic]

Kinky... It would be considered kinky.

Depends on what you “tube” them with.

And I teach my new EMTs to stay away from the sterrnal rub. A trap squeeze is just as effective.

 

[CCCSD]

I was told that even if you use it on an unconscious person, even to determine AVPU, it may be considered assault.

It’s not. There is no intent to commit a battery. Utter BS.

Yes. Trap squeeze is what we teach now too.

 

[Jim37F]

So I did a thing today, and checked out a fencing class! It was fun, and I'm planning on coming back next week too