the 100% directionless thread

[9D4]

I know that feel... I was going for Pararescue until my recruiter saw that I had a heart murmur needless to say that was the end of that "after high school career pursuit".

Yeah this was a lot longer than just an after high school pursuit haha. I was 280 lbs when I decided that's what I wanted to do. I spent 2 years training to iron man standards. as soon as I hit them I broke my tibia. Minor setback, but took another 6 months to get to the standards. And now that's all done so..

Now that royally sucks, sorry to hear. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a Navy pilot, flying jets off of carries, when I got glasses, I knew that basically killed that idea. I ended up refocussing and joining Army SOF (granted I'm "only" a PSYOPer not a green beret or an 11B Ranger but still lol)

So idk if those injuries/surgeries will prevent this, but what if you can't do AF Pararescue, how about Combat Controller? Or Army 68W/Navy Corpsman? etc?

No AFSOC will take me, I don't believe. Nor would I want to. The only other thing I would potentially try is civil affairs. I'm pretty sure that you have to get a flight physical for active duty CA, as well though.

 

[irishboxer384]

Yeah this was a lot longer than just an after high school pursuit haha. I was 280 lbs when I decided that's what I wanted to do. I spent 2 years training to iron man standards. as soon as I hit them I broke my tibia. Minor setback, but took another 6 months to get to the standards. And now that's all done so..

No AFSOC will take me, I don't believe. Nor would I want to. The only other thing I would potentially try is civil affairs. I'm pretty sure that you have to get a flight physical for active duty CA, as well though.

I thought you'd said you were going on 11x program?

 

[9D4]

I thought you'd said you were going on 11x program?

I always planned on pararescue. There was a problem with my vision waiver. So I wasn't able to at the time. I started the 11 recruitment process and then my waiver came through for pararescue.
It was something regarding my astigmatism. 11x had no issues taking me with it so that was my back up.
Now I can't do either haha.
Make sense?

 

[Jim37F]

No AFSOC will take me, I don't believe. Nor would I want to. The only other thing I would potentially try is civil affairs. I'm pretty sure that you have to get a flight physical for active duty CA, as well though.

Honestly not sure if the CA guys need a full flight physical but for us on the PSYOP side of the house I know I've only ever been asked for an Airborne physical for the whole falling out of airplanes thing

 

[9D4]

Honestly not sure if the CA guys need a full flight physical but for us on the PSYOP side of the house I know I've only ever been asked for an Airborne physical for the whole falling out of airplanes thing

All CA is jump certified. So I would imagine. I can't find any set info on that one.

 

[Chimpie]

It's time to go try on wedding tuxes.

 

[Apple Bill]

hard boiled eggs in the oven.

 

[Burritomedic1127]

Trip booked to Sugarloaf! Brand new 68 acre all backcountry Burnt Mountain expansion open

 

[Ewok Jerky]

Going up on Saturday

 

[Burritomedic1127]

Going up on Saturday

Niceee. Going to be cold the next couple days so they're either getting snow or making it, should be legit. Let me know for sure

 

[RocketMedic]

9D4, with that injury your military dream is dead.

 

[Chewy20]

9D4, with that injury your military dream is dead.

I've seen/served people with that extent of injury or worse in the military. Thoughtful comment though.

@9D4 I am not sure if its the same anymore, but when I joined you had to wait a minimum of a year after your last surgery to be able to start the process. May be wrong. But don't listen to that a** hat.

 

[9D4]

I've seen/served people with that extent of injury or worse in the military. Thoughtful comment though.

@9D4 I am not sure if its the same anymore, but when I joined you had to wait a minimum of a year after your last surgery to be able to start the process. May be wrong. But don't listen to that a** hat.

I know I can still serve. Just not in any of the careers that I've dreamed of. So yeah. He's pretty right. I mean I've never seen a career that interested besides those 3 and they're all write offs.

 

[RocketMedic]

Chewy, with respect, you know nothing of this.

9D4, let's be honest. Your femur is pinned together and will be for quite some time, and you're being evaluated for a total hip replacement in your twenties, and you already have vision issues. You'll likely need more surgeries in the not-too-distant future. If you were already enlisted, that would be one thing, but you're not. With that sort of history, you're not getting into the WW2 or Vietnam draft army, much less the 2015 all-volunteer force. It's just too much risk of causing further injury and disability in any reasonable future. Your injury is not waiverable for enlistment, much less combat arms, much less special forces and the like.

Best to refocus on goals that are achievable. If you dream of national service, there's plenty of good alternatives to the military that do not require physicals.

 

[RocketMedic]

Btw, real classy there, Chewy20. Nothing like calling me an *** for delivering the truth. Shows character and intelligence.

 

[Jim37F]

All CA is jump certified. So I would imagine. I can't find any set info on that one.

Yeah. So are all Active duty PSYOP. Which I was for 5 years before switching from AD to the Reserves, (where I successfully found an Airborne PSYOP Company that still actually jumps). When I enlisted we just needed an Airborne physical, not a full flight physical. No idea if that's changed in the last few years or not, a Recruiter would know far more about current requirements than I do. A cursory glance at SORB's (Special Operations Recruiting Battalion) website listed a SERE-C physical as a requirement to re-class into both CA and PSYOP, but I didn't see info on what physical they do/don't require for Initial Entry Soldiers into CA. Not sure which covers more, a flight, or a Sere C physical, though I imagine both are more in depth than my simple Airborne physical (which reminds me, I need to schedule one this month lol)


I talked to my dad who used to be a Recruiter back in the late 80's/early 90's. He said that the hip injury while only being pinned is a definite No Go, but once the hip replacement surgury is done, if you can show no ill effects a year afterwards, be able to pass an APFT etc, you could still get in. Now that was ~25 years ago, and the 2015 Army (and Air Force and Marine Corps) are actively drawing down (although the Navy is adding more Sailors), so that may (probably, unfortunately) negatively impact your ability to enlist/commission.

Of course this is all anecdotal....talk to your Recruiter for current official information[/QUOTE]

 

[luke_31]

I would take anything a recruiter tells you with a grain of salt. I've seen many basic trainees whose recruiters told them to not tell about medical issues or they do bring them up to MEPS. When they get to their basic training and get another medical eval a lot of trainees get DQ'd for stuff that MEPS misses or doesn't find. Chances are with a hip replacement at a young age they are not going to let you in (at least with the ARMY). Basic training can easily take a small issue that is barely noticeable and make it a huge issue. I can't count how many trainees I've transported that we're going to be medically discharged from something that wasn't obvious and they hid, only to have it show up at some point during their training

 

[Chewy20]

Chewy, with respect, you know nothing of this.

9D4, let's be honest. Your femur is pinned together and will be for quite some time, and you're being evaluated for a total hip replacement in your twenties, and you already have vision issues. You'll likely need more surgeries in the not-too-distant future. If you were already enlisted, that would be one thing, but you're not. With that sort of history, you're not getting into the WW2 or Vietnam draft army, much less the 2015 all-volunteer force. It's just too much risk of causing further injury and disability in any reasonable future. Your injury is not waiverable for enlistment, much less combat arms, much less special forces and the like.

Best to refocus on goals that are achievable. If you dream of national service, there's plenty of good alternatives to the military that do not require physicals.

I know nothing of it? I was an 11b and 31b. You're right I don't know anything. Is it an uphill battle for him? Yes. Impossible? Not yet. I was PDQ'd when I first enlisted and fought it all the way up to the Surgeon General of the Army and won. I know a thing or two about being pushed around in the waiver process.

 

[Chewy20]

Btw, real classy there, Chewy20. Nothing like calling me an *** for delivering the truth. Shows character and intelligence.

Oh and I have zero issues with being blunt about the truth, but when you have zero say in his outcome or the brass making the decision your input is worthless. If he is unfit for service in the next couple years then so be it. If you just give up then youre a coward.

 

[NomadicMedic]

Maybe it's time to once again get off topic?

I've been thinking about a new toy. It might be time for another Jeep.