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rwik123

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I would think the 02 would help calm the patient, lessen the possibility of going into shock.

in my class they said you usually can not go wrong giving them 02. Dont just ignore them, monitor their reaction, but it can generally only help.

So if I stubbed my toe on the foot of a table you'd hook me up to a non-rebreather at 15 lpm right? I mean i am hysteric from this injury and o2 would defiantly calm me down...right?

The fact that people like you are treating patients everyday is disturbing.

Please go back and take high school intro to bio...maybe if you took that, it would not require you to start 3 threads p/day of questions.
 

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Words of every EMT instructor EVER- "Every patient gets oxygen"

Go tell the national registry test that you dont give the patient oxygen. See if you pass.
 

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Words of every EMT instructor EVER- "Every patient gets oxygen"

Go tell the national registry test that you dont give the patient oxygen. See if you pass.

I had a dog, and his name was Cody.
 

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Oops, sorry. I thought this was the thread where we talked about things that didn't matter.

Would you give Narcan to every patient you come across? After all, it might make them "better"
 

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Oops, sorry. I thought this was the thread where we talked about things that didn't matter.

Would you give Narcan to every patient you come across? After all, it might make them "better"

No. But according to protocol, I can give every patient oxygen.
 

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No. But according to protocol, I can give every patient oxygen.

You strike me as the type of person protocols were created for. Wouldn't want you to actually think, and consider if the patient needs it, or not...
 

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You strike me as the type of person protocols were created for. Wouldn't want you to actually think, and consider if the patient needs it, or not...

Whether or not the patient "really" needs is doesnt matter to an EMT. EMTs arent even taught how to use a pulse ox. An EMT will never get in trouble for giving a patient oxygen. If the OP wants to give every patient oxygen thats his choice.

Do i give every patient oxygen? No. But i hate seeing people get flamed for doing what they are taught. If its not right it shouldnt be taught. Plain and simple.
 
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But i hate seeing people get flamed for doing what they are taught. If its not right it shouldnt be taught. Plain and simple.

Let's break that down.

You seem to grasp that things that aren't "right" are taught in EMT school. You also say, that you don't like seeing someone yelled at for doing something "wrong" that they were taught to do.

See where I'm going with this? Wrong is wrong, whether it was taught, or they just decided to do it.

Go ahead, follow your protocols. It'll save you from having to make a decision.
 

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Let's break that down.

You seem to grasp that things that aren't "right" are taught in EMT school. You also say, that you don't like seeing someone yelled at for doing something "wrong" that they were taught to do.

See where I'm going with this? Wrong is wrong, whether it was taught, or they just decided to do it.

Go ahead, follow your protocols. It'll save you from having to make a decision.

Yes but obviously, there are people that dont know its wrong.
 

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its not right what they are getting taught. i have no problem them saying to do it for nremt, but theres no excuse once they get into the field. Give o2 when its indicated by a sign or symptom, don't give it if there isn't any indication. simple. Treat the patient.
 

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Im not saying its okay, im saying people should be complete asses about it.

This isn't the first time the OP has had issues with medicine. It's obvious, at least to me, that the OP's training was inadequate, and instead of wondering about fake boobs, he should read some medical texts.
 

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its not right what they are getting taught. i have no problem them saying to do it for nremt, but theres no excuse once they get into the field. Give o2 when its indicated by a sign or symptom, don't give it if there isn't any indication. simple. Treat the patient.


My thoughts exactly, I know that my instructors and the instructors of the basic courses at my college all say "For testing purposes, every patient gets high-flow O2...in reality, evaluate your patient and decide from there." However, I still seem to run into a lot of students that are unable to grasp that concept.

To the OP, I'm not actually sure if you're a troll or if you just have the mental acuity of one, either way, I have to agree with other members in saying that you should spend a lot more time learning the basics than asking irrelevant questions. I also have a little scenario for you:

You have a 40 yo F pt. c/c racing heart after being left by her husband of 20 years. She has an O2 sat. of 100% and a RR of 34. She denies any SOB but she is also complaining of tingling in her extremities and appears to have carpopedal spasms. Do you give O2?
 
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My thoughts exactly, I know that my instructors and the instructors of the basic courses at my college all say "For testing purposes, every patient gets high-flow O2...in reality, evaluate your patient and decide from there." However, I still seem to run into a lot of students that are unable to grasp that concept.

To the OP, I'm not actually sure if you're a troll or if you just have the mental acuity of one, either way, I have to agree with other members in saying that you should spend a lot more time learning the basics than asking irrelevant questions. I also have a little scenario for you:

You have a 40 yo F pt. c/c racing heart after being left by her husband of 20 years. She has an O2 sat. of 100% and a RR of 34. She denies any SOB but she is also complaining of tingling in her extremities and appears to have carpopedal spasms. Do you give O2?

Im curious to see his response.
 
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my thoughts exactly, i know that my instructors and the instructors of the basic courses at my college all say "for testing purposes, every patient gets high-flow o2...in reality, evaluate your patient and decide from there." however, i still seem to run into a lot of students that are unable to grasp that concept.

To the op, i'm not actually sure if you're a troll or if you just have the mental acuity of one, either way, i have to agree with other members in saying that you should spend a lot more time learning the basics than asking irrelevant questions. I also have a little scenario for you:

You have a 40 yo f pt. C/c racing heart after being left by her husband of 20 years. She has an o2 sat. Of 100% and a rr of 34. She denies any sob but she is also complaining of tingling in her extremities and appears to have carpopedal spasms. Do you give o2?

oh oh oh i know i know. Pick me pick me!!!!!!!!:p
 

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You have a 40 yo F pt. c/c racing heart after being left by her husband of 20 years. She has an O2 sat. of 100% and a RR of 34. She denies any SOB but she is also complaining of tingling in her extremities and appears to have carpopedal spasms. Do you give O2?

Sure why not. In testing purposes you would bag her.
 

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I bet he is still looking up carpopedal spasms
 
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