Rhode Island EMT-C...challenge NREMT-I??

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Shishkabob

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Why do you say its hard enough to teach cardiacs that go through paramedic school to be good paramedics?? I would think they would be good paramedics because they are already practicing at a high level and its only the addition of a few drugs and procedures.

Doing ALS skills does not equate to "practicing at a high level". Just because they know HOW to do a skill does not mean they know when/why to use it.

Someone that can do 90% of my skills, but only 1/3 of my knowledge base, is not an equal level provider.
 
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I didnt say Cardiacs are an equal provider to Medics..of course they arent. I was just saying that if you have a class of cardiacs, it seems like that class would be easier because you dont have to build on knowledge and skills from a 'basic' level..they are already ALS. I completely understand the 'breaking bad habits' line. That makes a lot of sense.
 

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Of course we know when/why to use a skill. We don't run around sticking iv's and defibrilating, and pushing drugs for no reason. What a stupid statement.
 

Shishkabob

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A Cardiac's knowledge in understanding the when/why/how of diseases and interventions is on par with that of a Paramedic?
 

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I didn't the knowledge level was the same. I said we know when and why to use an intervention. U made it sound like we just do the procedure because that's what we are supposed to do.
 

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I didn't the knowledge level was the same. I said we know when and why to use an intervention. U made it sound like we just do the procedure because that's what we are supposed to do.

Sometimes the hardest part is knowing when NOT to do an intervention. I think that might have been what he was trying to get at
 

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Nobody is denying that paramedic is a higher level of care. But here in RI, the Cardiac level works just fine with the longest transport being no more than half an hour.
 

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please do not use that excuse of a transport time of being less than a half hour that is no reason for some shoty care given....It's a pet peeve of mine. I do want to make it understood I am not bashing cardiacs, I have some fanstastic, way more experienced cardiacs I work with that I always bounce ideas off of. It all truly depends on what class they go to, truly and what year they took it. On a side note I've worked with some great cardiacs that come out of smithfield. I'm just saying I just don't like the fact that the highest level of care is not the standard here. Like I said do what is best for your position. I went from basic to medic and I did fine without the "step".
 
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