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What are your thoughts on the mosque being built steps away from ground zero which has been dubbed 'the ground zero mosque'?
 
I think it's much ado about nothing, or rather, the ado is pretty offensive.

Americans are not any one religious faith, that's sort of an important fact about this nation. Not only are there many Muslims who are part of this society, but there were many who died on 9/11 or who were affected on that day. The mosque is no closer (more than 2 blocks away) than a bunch of things that people seem to be accepting - like Burger Kings and stands hawking garish souvenirs of the site - I hardly think a center that is made to build community and celebrate faith is a bad thing.
 
Lifeguards For Life said:
What are your thoughts on the mosque being built steps away from ground zero which has been dubbed 'the ground zero mosque'?
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Well, I find it interesting that you say "steps away" when you really have no clue how close it is to the actual site by your word choice. If you do have a clue and still use those words, then you are just as guilty as certain media outlets which have been promoting this fear monger mentality to promote certain political agendas.

The mosque is 2 blocks away from the WTC site. Certain people with media resources dubbed the site the ground zero mosque. The proposed mosque adheres to all building codes for that area, no special exemptions were made. It could be a Satanic Temple for all I care...as long as it adheres to the zoning and building requirements, who am I to say it can not be constructed?

Also, in this same "ground zero" area, there are other mosques, churches, strip bars, pubs and other businesses. Should any of these be allowed to operate in such a hallowed ground?

It is 2 blocks away...where do you draw the line? What area is allowable to build in and what area is not? See how ridiculous this is?

Build away...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upsho...pshot/news-outlets-split-in-describing-mosque
 
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2 blocks is steps away ;)

"Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time."-steven martin
 
The only thing I dislike more than the mosque there is the government telling them they can't build it there. The mob can't overrule the constitution short of the amendment process (yes, let's see if we can amend the 1st amendment to include the phrase "except Muslims") or rebellion.
 
It's called religious freedom as such they can do anything they want.
 
looker said:
It's called religious freedom as such they can do anything they want.
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Freedom from government interference and freedom from rebuke are two different things. They're free to construct it in accordance with local regulations, however they're also free to receive the public relations consequences of their actions.
 
There is a mosque 8-10 blocks away from the WTC. There is a mosque in the pentagon. There is a Shinto temple near Pearl Harbor. There are hundreds of Christian churches in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There are Catholic churches near elementary schools. We don't blame the entire Christian faith for Scott Roeder* or Fred Phelps**.

So, in short. This isn't the only example of a religious institution being near the site of a tragedy. The constitution wins and I'm pretty sure the GOP just wanted a campaign issue since the plans for the thing were approved back in 12/09 without so much as a peep out of them.


* Shot Dr. George Tiller in a church because Dr. Tiller performed abortions.
** Fred Phelps is that poor excuse for a human being that protests military funerals because he says god is mad at the US for allowing gay people to exist.
 
It's their constitutional right to congregate, which indicates building. It's not ON the property. Secondly, the moment we blame all of Islam for 9/11 is the moment christians must take all responsibility for the Fred Phelps, Tim McVeys and the child molesting priests and pastors. I've seen quite a few conservative christian friends get upset claiming their rights are being thwarted, when the reality is this can not be further from the truth. My response is always "go ahead, push this issue, deny their constitutional rights to worship and congergate where they may, and when it becomes harder for YOUR faith to congregate and worship and people start coming down on christendom, don't come cryng to me, since you started this process to remove religious freedom from the constitution".

I find it neither constitutionally wrong, nor ethically wrong, but then again, I don't go around blaming entire faiths for everything wrong with the world.
 
considering some of the hijackers were later proved to still be alive, i'm not sure who to blame. I'm also thankful for this post, because i never looked close enough into the scuttlebutt to determine why a mosque would be going up AT ground zero. Now at least i've got some perspective to know that it is completely media hype and unrelated to the tragedy that was used to send our armies into an aggressive war of conquest.
 
I'm not one normally for the talking heads on cable news, but this commentary hit the nail on the head.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2Muxoo0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
 
Yeah, Olbermann isn't my favorite talking head (he's not my least favorite either LOL) but when he's right, he's really right.
 
The ones who b**** about people who are against the mosque/non-mosque are just as bad as those who b**** about it being built.
 
I take it Linuss just doesn't have an opinion either way LOL.
 
Lifeguards For Life said:
I can understand it being insensitive at best, but don't feel that it should not be built...
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There you go. Like someone said earlier, they have every right to build there, the only thing they have to answer to is public opinion. However wrong public opinion may be, it is still a reality. I say build away, and hopefully they can withstand public opinion. This is a free country in that the government cannot make relegious regulations. It is not a free country in terms of what your fellow Americans can say. They have just as much freedom of speech as whoever builds mosques has freedom to excercise their relegion.

Simple in my mind. You are free to build whatever relegious institution (within reason. no human sacrifice and other nonsense.) that you want. You are not free to do so without the public's observation and opinion.
 
Linuss said:
The ones who b**** about people who are against the mosque/non-mosque are just as bad as those who b**** about it being built.
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I will admit to carping about it, but my issue has more to do with people lying and not knowing history than anything. I keep hearing its going to open on 9/11/11 or that its being built because Muslims always build at the site of their conquests....its absurd. If you are going to hate it fine, but at least hate it based on facts and not BS.

I agree that Olbermann's commentary was right on. He can be a little too liberal for my tastes, but he nailed this dead on.
 
Blog with some interesting pictures of what else is on "Hallowed Ground."

http://daryllang.com/blog/4421

So right after the 'Muslim terrorists' get done praying and playing basketball, they can go to the near-by Burger King, strip club, bar, or off track betting facility. Oh, don't forget to pick up some tacky souvenir crud while you're at it. After all, what point is it being hallowed ground if you can't turn a dollar while you're at it.


Finally found a picture comparision of what the community center is and what the community center is not.

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I saw that same blog yesterday. I was at work and I asked my partner "So are we going to cal everything "The Ground Zero _____, because I don't think people will like 'The Ground Zero strip club.'"
 
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