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but if you go by some on here, I should be banished for life.
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Not banished for life....but certainly would have to do something really significant to counterbalance the negative "weight" of prior criminal activity when looking at your application versus those with unblemished records.

BTW, this is speaking as someone whose own father has a history of multiple DUIs.
 
I had a back of .13 it was almost three years ago no other points on my record just one bad decision in my life
 
I have all my licenses just not my ambulance license. I have to wait until I am off probation which is the beginning of August. I was just asking because I was starting to get discouraged because it been almost a year since I got my emt-b cert and still no job. Thanks for everyones response
 
shanederosier said:
I had a back of .13 it was almost three years ago no other points on my record just one bad decision in my life
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We just had a cop here kill a motorcyclist and seriously injure two others (they were stopped at a stoplight when the cop hit them from behind) while running Code 3, while texting with a BAC of 0.18. Look at the bright side, at least you don't have to live with that sort of a scenario.
 
usafmedic45 said:
Not banished for life....but certainly would have to do something really significant to counterbalance the negative "weight" of prior criminal activity when looking at your application versus those with unblemished records.

BTW, this is speaking as someone whose own father has a history of multiple DUIs.
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I really do not know how to respond to that, and I think I can see where you might be coming from and possibly understand your intolerance, but do not condemn all those that have suffered the affliction of bad judgment. My DUI was on a New Years Eve, I payed the price (Jail and all that), and thankfully no one was hurt. I learned my lesson and made dang sure never to do that again. Since then, I learned that I was an alcoholic, I had a big problem. Well I am proud to say that I have been sober for a long time, it was not easy and I still want a drink from time to time.

My point is, sure we are humans and we mess up, thankfully I did not hurt anyone, but I was given redemption and I think people should be given a second chance. Some people do not learn from their mistakes, and I think their colors should be obvious. When hiring it is a judgment call, but wisdom and your senses should be your decisive factor.
 
Take it as we all have our good days and our bad. When we have a truly bad day, it takes a long time to get over it both internally and externally. Call it karma or whatever you will, but stuff sticks to and with you. I'm not without fault and there are things I am trying to work to overcome myself. I don't think people should be abused because of "run of the mill" mistakes but still they do have to balance it out with what they do after that point. Like you said, when someone reaches that point will be different for every person they deal with and it will come down to the wisdom, senses and standards of that particular individual.
 
usafmedic45 said:
Take it as we all have our good days and our bad. When we have a truly bad day, it takes a long time to get over it both internally and externally. Call it karma or whatever you will, but stuff sticks to and with you. I'm not without fault and there are things I am trying to work to overcome myself. I don't think people should be abused because of "run of the mill" mistakes but still they do have to balance it out with what they do after that point. Like you said, when someone reaches that point will be different for every person they deal with and it will come down to the wisdom, senses and standards of that particular individual.
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Trust me i know what you are saying. I have had my DUI follow me around like cancer, even Saint Teresa could not absolve me of my sins, but luckily I had the foresight to make change which many in my situation do. I have transformed from a derelict to a fire fighter,
If I can do it, others can do it to.
 
Sandog said:
This is unfortunate that you feel this way, I am sure there are many fine candidates who at one time made a poor choice in judgment, but have since learned and have grown into responsible people. People deserve a second chance, God offers redemption, why can't you?
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Once drunk always drunk. Sorry but if they made a mistake they are welcome to make that mistake again with someone else. There is no reason to take that risk when there are plenty of qualified candidate with clean criminal record.
 
looker said:
Once drunk always drunk. Sorry but if they made a mistake they are welcome to make that mistake again with someone else. There is no reason to take that risk when there are plenty of qualified candidate with clean criminal record.
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I do not agree with this at all. A person who makes a mistake is not doomed to make the same mistakes over and over.

Have you ever gotten a speeding ticket? I hope not because once a speeder always a speeder and there is no way im risking my ambulance with you driving.
 
Anjel1030 said:
I do not agree with this at all. A person who makes a mistake is not doomed to make the same mistakes over and over.

Have you ever gotten a speeding ticket? I hope not because once a speeder always a speeder and there is no way im risking my ambulance with you driving.
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Yes i got plenty of them. Yes once a speeder always a speeder. Thankfully i am the one that doing the hiring. So do not have to worry about not being hired :)
 
Sandog said:
This is unfortunate that you feel this way, I am sure there are many fine candidates who at one time made a poor choice in judgment, but have since learned and have grown into responsible people. People deserve a second chance, God offers redemption, why can't you?
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The Easter Bunny lays pastel colored eggs, why cant you?
 
looker said:
Once drunk always drunk.
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My father struggled with alcoholism throughout my childhood. He had 2 DUIs, and had been arrested for public drunkeness on more than one occasion. I'm PROUD to say that he hasn't had a drink in years, and now works at a halfway house to help others who struggle with the same thing he once did.

So, your idea that "once [a] drunk, always [a] drunk," isn't true.
 
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Honestly, that doesn't really disprove looker's statement. Your father may not be consuming alcohol, but he does not have the same relationship with it as a non-alcoholic, and very likely will never be able to have that relationship.
 
Aidey said:
Honestly, that doesn't really disprove looker's statement. Your father may not be consuming alcohol, but he does not have the same relationship with it as a non-alcoholic, and very likely will never be able to have that relationship.
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Explain how that makes him a drunk (in the present tense).
 
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Looker's wording was blunt, and if we are using the literal definition of drunk, incorrect.

More accurate would be saying that once a person has such an unhealthy relationship with alcohol they are deemed an alcoholic that they are usually unable to form a healthy relationship with alcohol, necessitating that they remain sober.

Shortened to: Once you have that bad relationship, you will always have that bad relationship.

Or, bluntly: Once a drunk, always a drunk.
 
Wait scratch that, it was someone else with two DUIs
 
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I don't consider driving drunk just a "mistake". It shows a total disregard for anything but yourself. Don't make excuses and say "Well I was drunk." truly responsible people make arrangements beforehand to avoid driving drunk.

The only DUIs that I truly feel are a mistake are those who get them for sleeping in their cars with the AC or radio on.
 
Aidey said:
More accurate would be saying that once a person has such an unhealthy relationship with alcohol they are deemed an alcoholic that they are usually unable to form a healthy relationship with alcohol, necessitating that they remain sober.
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I agree with this.
 
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cletus said:
Isn't it taken off your record after years a few years?

If it's fresh you might have some explaining to do and you'll want emphasize that you've learned your lesson.
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In MN, all Alcohol related offenses stay on your driving record forever.

and yes to your question.
 
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shanederosier said:
Has anyone heard of someone with a dui ever getting hired as a emt b before?
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depending on the conviction, scenario of the DUI, did you cause an accident, etc, obtain the documentation of your arrest, etc, that you've done all the necessary steps to obtain your license back, date of conviction...cover your *** as much as possible when it comes to documentation.

I know of a few companies around her who hire DUI convictions...however be careful of the company you're applying for, the ones around here with DUI's working as EMT's...aren't that great.<_<

People do get hired, just gotta make your argument as honest, and productive as possible.
 
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