Dog Intubation

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Anjel1030 said:
Glad im not going there lol
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We were one of the first classes that did it. Rick's brother is the vet I believe. They found a stray and they made it the vet pet. 2 classes went through and tubed the dog 3 times each person. Basically all we did was move the tongue out of the way and put it in, pull it out and repeat.

Didn't learn anything really and I wasn't 100% comfortable doing it.

Covenant was screwing with us for OR time and I never got to go there. I did all mine in the field other than the 3 there.

I hope they improve their program. I really wanted to go to OB and Peds but we couldn't because they pissed them off before. I hear they're doing their tubes at St Marys now (OP can you confirm?). Is Bill your teacher?
 
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AlphaButch said:
I'd have problems with the intubating a dog repeatedly in one session because there would be too high a chance for injury upon extubation in my opinion.

As for the anatomy, it's close enough that you can learn the techniques and more importantly - get over the fear of intubation. If your state has a minimum required intubations, I can understand using this as an option (otherwise you may have bad luck and be waiting for months just for your last intubation).

I think you should have done better research before picking that course if you have that much of an issue with the way they operate.
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Techniques are changed due to the equipment not necessary to intuabate a dog....like a laryngoscope
 
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usafmedic45 said:
I'd much prefer we got to practice on prisoners and others with a debt to society to repay but unfortunately some :censored::censored::censored::censored::censored::censored::censored:s about 70 years ago completely ruined that option.



Ditto!
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This post makes me sad. If we had to practice on animals here I wouldn't be able to do it. Make convicts be lab rats.
 
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n7lxi said:
My girlfriend is a vet, and I just told her about this thread. She laughed, "Dogs are easy," she said. "if you want to simulate pedi airways, try kittens." I advocated using cats as a training adjunct for pedi intubations in a paper that I wrote for medic school.
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Agreed. 6 years as a Vet Tech; the last year as the senior vet tech. Intubated 10-30 a week. Dogs are no issue; move tounge, insert, inflate. Cats were the issue; the smaller the worse. Constantly had to step in after some techs 3 try; not easy when the little guy won't "open up for ya". Pigs also sucked and from what I am told are the most similar structurally to humans. Not sure if that is true. Can't see how dog or cat intubations prepare anyone for human intubation; apples and oranges.

From what I have heard, many institutions have stopped using dogs and cats for intubation practices due to animal rights protests.
 
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