Doctors as patients

Wait. Accidentally insulting a patient is enough to revoke a license where you live? How do you even have any professionals left? I'm sure calling for a lift assist gets people fired on a regular basis for implying the patient is fat.

Thank God not every system is not itching to pull out the gallows because of a disagreement.

If someone actually went so far as to tell a parent they were internet educated about their child that would not be an accidental insult. That is a very clear cut insult in my opinion and very far off from an appropriate standard of care.
 
If someone actually went so far as to tell a parent they were internet educated about their child that would not be an accidental insult. That is a very clear cut insult in my opinion and very far off from an appropriate standard of care.

While it is definately insulting, and not really appropriate, I am not sure it meets a serious enough transgression to deny somebody their livelihood.

There is a difference in poor medical care and poor customer service.

I know many doctors who lack customer service skills but their level of care is second to none.

Many EMS providers are taught to think in absolute black and white terms. It is pounded into them that they do not have the medical education to make decisions. (nature of the beast)

It stands to reason that many would conclude that they do not have the knowledge to make medical decisions and they are constantly told they are doing the right thing, that as a matter of patient interest, they would think a nonEMS provider didn't have all the answers they did.

It is flawed logic for sure, but not logic made of malice or ill intent.

EMS providers are for the most part educated to emergencies which are either extremely rare or simply do not exist in the modern world. When all you know is the extreme, everything looks extreme.

It takes considerable experience, not in chronology, but in patient contact, to finally understand when less is more.

When it comes to volunteer care, my answer is simple, if people don't like what they get from volunteers, pay for what they want. If they don't want to pay for better, they get what they paid for. No less, no more.

When dealing with an extreme opinion, taking the opposite extreme is unlikely to get anything done.
 
If someone actually went so far as to tell a parent they were internet educated about their child that would not be an accidental insult. That is a very clear cut insult in my opinion and very far off from an appropriate standard of care.

Like most providers, what I think and what I'll actually say to a patient (or a patient's parent as the case may be) are two very different things.

If I think the parent isn't as big of an expert as they think they are, I'm not going to purposely tell that to their face, but I'm not going to take their word as gospel either.

Life experience has taught me that not everyone who claims they're an expert actually is one, and that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference. If I'm in doubt, I'm going to rely on my own knowledge and experience, and those of my medical control. Period.
 
I can also promise you that if I was ever referred to as being "internet educated" I would have your job and your license by the end of the week and I am not exaggerating for dramatic effect.
No you wouldn't. you can demand it, but any halfway decent supervisor or manager would pacify you until they got you out of their office, than deal with the person with a reasonable individual (which you are not acting like). If anything, the individual who you felt insulted you would get called into the bosses office, and would probably get a stern lecture on how parents know stuff about their kids. maybe a formal write up, but that's about it.

Until you can show me your formal education (which means a medical degree or any degree in the medical industry), you are just an educated parent whose feelings were hurt because someone didn't give you the respect you thought you deserved. Take the emotional outrage of the equation, and you personal outrage of being accused of not knowing something about your child, and you will see that all the person needs is a talking to, not to lose their job or lively hood.

Unless you have someone who works in a :censored::censored::censored::censored:ty system, where the management don't back their staff. thank you can probably get an EMT or paramedic fired for looking at your the wrong way. or because they didn't get to the scene fast enough. or because they didn't treat the patient they way you wanted them to be treated. or any other trivial and stupid reason that you shouldn't be able to fire someone for.
 
Like most providers, what I think and what I'll actually say to a patient (or a patient's parent as the case may be) are two very different things.

If I think the parent isn't as big of an expert as they think they are, I'm not going to purposely tell that to their face, but I'm not going to take their word as gospel either.

Life experience has taught me that not everyone who claims they're an expert actually is one, and that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference. If I'm in doubt, I'm going to rely on my own knowledge and experience, and those of my medical control. Period.

Use resources available to you. That includes parents. Sure some are asshats but the majority are well educated and know what they are talking about when it involves their children.

It happened to my partner and I earlier today.
 
If someone actually went so far as to tell a parent they were internet educated about their child that would not be an accidental insult. That is a very clear cut insult in my opinion and very far off from an appropriate standard of care.

Regardless of the fact that there many, many parents that really do think they know everything about their child's wellbeing based only webmd? While I don't doubt that many parents of special needs children are indeed experts in their child's case, that is not always been the case. I've been to a few calls where it was obvious by the parents attitude that they were not clued into what was going on. I'm happy to take the family's advice when it's clear when they know what they're talking about, but that's just not always the case. I certainly would never tell the family that though since that's just in poor taste. It's certainly not enough to revoke a license though, much less a job.
 
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