AI and Medicine

Does AI have a place in medicine

  • Yes absolutely

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • it's going to happen regardless

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 5 33.3%

  • Total voters
    15
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Yeah…but this requires a live person.

I mean the AI says to kill yourself. Then contacts the Rx computer and fills the script.
 
Yeah…but this requires a live person.

I mean the AI says to kill yourself. Then contacts the Rx computer and fills the script.
Makes me wonder how the Third Party Doctrine and AI records will interact. I can easily see a scenario where an over eager law enforcement type claims that since the AI is not a medical professional, the records it generates are not PHI.
 
Makes me wonder how the Third Party Doctrine and AI records will interact. I can easily see a scenario where an over eager law enforcement type claims that since the AI is not a medical professional, the records it generates are not PHI.
Yep. A whole new area of law…overseen by an AI Judge in an electronic courtroom.
 
I think it will be an excellent adjunct. It'll never be just AI doing medicine, but it will be a very useful tool.
The nerds are playing around with human/computer cooperation in chess, as a parallel example.
I myself maybe am a case study... I'm taking flaxseed oil now after using ChatGPT to educate myself further on vegetarian nutrition and learning that fatty acids are easy to miss having enough of. It's a very efficient way to sort through masses of information very quickly. I think it will have applications in patient education with oversight, and I think it will make incredible leaps in preventing deaths due to human error
 
Therapy chatbots have very limited applications (pun accidental) as of yet. Some psychoeducation, symptom tracking, and cognitive exercises that I've seen. May be useful for people with mild symptoms who can't get in to see a mental health provider for months, as is often the case.
 
Well, I personally think our biggest challenge will be having to deal with an AI teenager...
 
Here's what Grok, Elon Musk's ChatGPT thinks where EMS is headed

Predicting the future of Emergency Medical Services (EMS) over 20 to 50 years—say, 2045 to 2075—means looking at current trends, tech breakthroughs, and societal shifts, then extrapolating with a mix of pragmatism and imagination. EMS today is strained: underfunded, understaffed, and often stuck in a reactive mode. In the U.S., response times average 7 minutes in urban areas but can hit 14+ in rural ones, and paramedics juggle everything from heart attacks to opioid overdoses. Here’s how that could evolve.

Tech Revolution in the Field
By 2045, expect drones and autonomous vehicles to transform response. Drones are already dropping AEDs in Sweden—cut delivery to 3 minutes versus 10 by ambulance. In 20 years, they could carry advanced diagnostics or even robotic arms for remote triage, guided by AI. By 2075, fully autonomous ambulances might roam cities, using real-time traffic data and patient vitals (streamed from wearables) to optimize routes. Paramedics could focus on care, not driving, with AI flagging critical cases—like a 95% accurate sepsis prediction from a 2023 study scaled up.

Wearables and Predictive EMS
Everyone’s got a smartwatch now; in 50 years, bio-implants or skin patches could monitor glucose, heart rhythms, or oxygen levels 24/7. EMS could shift from reactive to proactive—imagine a 2060 system where an algorithm pings medics before a diabetic crash or stroke hits, based on a spike in biomarkers. X posts today hype wearables, but privacy gripes hint at a future tension: people might resist if EMS shows up uninvited. Still, opt-in programs could slash cardiac arrest deaths (currently 90% fatal outside hospitals).

Supercharged Paramedics
Training and tools will level up. Augmented reality (AR) glasses could overlay patient data—vein maps for IVs or 3D organ visuals—by 2045, building on prototypes like Microsoft’s HoloLens. Gene-editing tech, like CRISPR, might let medics stabilize trauma patients with on-the-spot clotting boosts. By 2075, nanobots in a medic’s kit could repair internal bleeding en route, guided by AI. Paramedics might evolve into “field clinicians,” handling what doctors do now, thanks to robotics and telehealth links to specialists.

System Overhaul
Funding’s a perpetual EMS headache—70% of services rely on shaky local budgets. In 20 years, a nationalized EMS grid could emerge, spurred by climate crises or pandemics, with federal drones and mobile units deployed like military assets. By 2075, EMS might integrate with a universal healthcare backbone, using AI to triage across regions—no more 911 bottlenecks. Rural gaps could close with teleport-like med-pods (think Star Trek, but grounded in quantum tech speculation) or hypersonic transport cutting coast-to-coast hauls to an hour.

Social and Ethical Curves
Mental health calls, already 20% of EMS runs, could dominate as stigma fades and urban stress climbs. Future medics might pack VR de-escalation tools or instant mood-stabilizing drugs. But inequality could widen—high-end suburbs get drone fleets while rural towns limp along with 2020s rigs. X chatter today shows frustration with uneven care; amplify that 50 years out if tech isn’t democratized. And who gets priority? AI triage might weigh “social value” or insurance status, sparking ethical firestorms.

Wild Cards
Climate change could force EMS into disaster mode—think mass evacuations from megafires or floods, with medics in exosuits wading through chaos. Space tourism might birth orbital EMS by 2075, rescuing rich joyriders from low-gravity heart attacks. Biotech could even redefine “emergency”—if aging slows, EMS might focus less on heart disease and more on rare, engineered-virus outbreaks.

In 20 years, EMS could be faster, smarter, and half-automated, with drones and wearables cutting deaths. By 50, it might be a sci-fi hybrid—nanotech, predictive AI, and seamless systems—though access and ethics will lag unless tackled head-on. What do you think—does this sound plausible, or am I overshooting the runway?

The future of Emergency Medical Technicians (EMTs) and Paramedics over the next 20 to 50 years—spanning 2045 to 2075—hinges on how technology, healthcare systems, and societal needs evolve. Today, EMTs and paramedics are the backbone of EMS, with EMTs handling basic life support (think CPR, splints) and paramedics taking on advanced interventions (IVs, intubation). They’re overworked, underpaid (median pay around $36,000 for EMTs, $46,000 for paramedics in 2023), and facing burnout—20% quit within two years. Here’s how their roles could transform.

2045: Augmented and Amplified
In 20 years, the job won’t vanish, but it’ll look different. Tech will amplify their capabilities. Augmented reality (AR) visors could feed real-time vitals, X-ray-like scans, or step-by-step guidance for complex procedures—think Google Glass on steroids, tested in med schools now. Drones might drop gear or meds ahead of arrival, cutting the “golden hour” for trauma to a “golden half-hour.” AI diagnostics, already 90% accurate for some conditions like strokes, could flag priorities, letting paramedics focus on hands-on care while EMTs manage triage with smarter tools.

Training will ramp up too. Virtual reality (VR) sims, expanding from today’s pilot programs, could drill them on rare scenarios—mass shootings, chemical spills—without real-world risk. Paramedics might get crash courses in robotics or telehealth, linking to ER docs mid-call. Pay could rise as skills deepen—say, $60,000 for EMTs and $80,000-$100,000 for paramedics—if unions or public pressure push it, reflecting X posts griping about wages now.

Their scope might widen. Mental health calls, already surging, could see EMTs trained in de-escalation or basic counseling, armed with VR calming tools or fast-acting anxiolytics. Paramedics might administer gene-therapy patches for bleeding disorders, building on CRISPR trials. They’ll be less “ambulance drivers,” more “field clinicians,” especially as autonomous rigs free them to focus on patients.

2075: Hybrid Humans in a Sci-Fi System
By 50 years out, the line between EMTs, paramedics, and doctors could blur. Nanobots—speculative but rooted in current research—might let paramedics repair organs en route, guided by AI implants in their own heads (think Neuralink scaled up). EMTs could evolve into “first-contact techs,” wielding bio-sensors to stabilize and prep for paramedic handoff. Exosuits, tested now by militaries, might let them lift 300-pound patients solo or sprint through disaster zones.

Education could shift to lifelong augmentation—implanted knowledge chips updating protocols instantly, bypassing years of school. Paramedics might specialize: trauma, neuro, or even space EMS for orbital emergencies (if SpaceX’s dreams pan out). Pay could hit six figures across the board, reflecting their tech-enhanced value, though rural gigs might lag unless systems equalize.

The human touch stays key. AI won’t fully replace them—patients crave empathy, and X chatter shows distrust in fully automated care. But burnout could ease with shorter shifts (robots handle grunt work) and better mental health support, like mandatory debriefs after brutal calls. They might also face ethical dilemmas: who gets the last nanobot dose in a mass casualty event?

Risks and Realities
Jobs won’t disappear, but numbers might shrink if tech handles low-level tasks—EMTs could drop 20% while paramedics hold steady, per workforce trends. Climate chaos could redefine the gig—think paramedics in hazmat suits for flood rescues. Inequality’s a wild card: rich areas might get cyborg medics while poor ones stick with 2020s kits. And if healthcare goes universal, they could be federal agents, not local hires, with standardized gear and rules.

In 20 years, EMTs and paramedics will be tech-savvy multitaskers, still human but heavily assisted. By 50, they’re borderline superheroes, merging biotech and grit—assuming funding and ethics keep pace. What do you think—does this track with where you see healthcare heading?
 
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