If something like this is posted somewhere I missed it. I feel like it is unique and applies to me so I chose to start a new thread.
1996 I complete and graduate from a DOT Standard EMT-P Class. Pass the NREMT-P skills. Fail the written by one question, twice, in OB. For whatever resaon I walk away from it with a cert that I completed the course but no State or NREMT-P.
I remain involved in EMS but inside the hospital. I maintain BCLS, ACLS, and PALS. I work as a emergency room technician. Do some als stuff like IV's and EKG's. Don't officially intubate but am able to maintain the skill. I stay involved with ER-Tech work / skills.
Leave it all for a year or two to join the dot com world. Say 2000
Dot com bubble bursts and I return to being an ER Tech. Get ACLS PALS and BCLS current.
2005 I walk away again to go work as a vet tech in an animal er. Different kind of patient but same skills. However in addition to what I could do in people medicine, I can push drugs of any kind, advanced airway to RSI. Basically in the animal world I function as a Medic, An ICU Nurse, a PA. Yeah it is animals but to pet owners it is their babies. All the skills the medic RN and PA I can now do.
Still do animal but want to start running people again. Plan, challenge the NREMT-P. 14 years since finishing EMT-P, figure I should take courses to catch up. BCLS ACLS PALS ITLS done. Need to be an EMT-B, go and complete that and get state vert and NREMT-B. Final class I take is EMT-P refresfer 48 hours DOT approved, this class covers the scope of the classes all ready taken but most of the class is about what is missing from those classes like cric, dropping chests and so on.
I am now current yet need to take that final test, written and skills to become a lic emt-p. States seem to want current NREMT-P to take the state test. NREMT says unless i maintained EMT-P state wise within two years, I can test NREMT-P.
If it has been greater than i think either two or five years from EMT-P course completion, I must take EMT-P over again.
Re-entry NREMT-P standards I meet minus the ever being a NREMT-P or State EMT-P. I ask NREMT to take into account the classes I have taken from June to now, all the classes required to re-enter, plus i sit through EMT-B and don't take one note, pass course with a 98% average. State test score is 97% Skills Passed. EMT-P 48 hour refresher done, can i please take the CBT for NREMT-P. Answer is no, you have to repeat the class even though you have taken all these courses, we cannot process you without State EMT-P Lic. State, may I take your EMT-P written and skills test...no. Why not, cause you are not an NREMT-P.
I am at my wits end. With the economy, work, bills, and so on, i need a job as a Paramedic. Taking a 14 month course over again, what for? Everything that has changed since 1996 has been updated through the classes I have taken in 2010.
State, can I take your EMT-P Test to prove I am competent to you but we do this test off the record. The purpose is for you to come to bat with me for NREMT. A letter is needed from State for re-entry that i am good to go. State I live in PA, says no. Maryland says No. States that don't affiliate with NREMT, they all say no.
Local Congressman says he cannot help me, out of his area of authority, contact this Congressman for help. Correct Congressman says sorry i cannot help.
State Senator to US Senate, I cannot help you. Sends me the pages he downloads from NREMT
Only one left, President of the United States, Obama, have not heard from him. State of PA says Obama is powerless to help me. Maybe right maybe wrong, don't know yet. Will I ever hear from Obama, highly unlikely.
Try to meet halfway, can I test EMT-I and go from there...NO
See three possible options:
1.) Re-take EMT-P
2.) File an appeal with NREMT to test.
3.) Take legal action against State or NREMT, not very versed on the law, do I have a case, do I seek arbitration?
3a) I am sure there is some lawyer some where who would take the case. Will a court hear the case? What will the court say? OJ Simpson killed two people but a jury set him free. So Court and arbitration if options, may be wild cards at most.
NREMT use to let people challenge their tests, what happened that caused that to change?
Is there any State in the USA that will let me challenge their EMT-P test?
For God's sake I am not asking for a card or a license, I am asking for the chance to take the written test, take the skills test, to prove by passing, that I can be and EMT-P
Retaking EMT-P, why should I have to?
I am unemployed and have used savings to take all these classes to get up to date with the standards of care.
I need an EMT-P job, I need to work, I need medical for my family.
The Volunteer Fire I run with has no Medics at all. Closet Medic is 20 minutes away by ground. Sometime longer if they are on calls.
Bottom line I am a Paramedic. I completed the course. I have earned the right to say I am a Paramedic. I am an unlicensed Paramedic. I am not a NREMT-P certified.
NREMT says it is a state issue. State says it is a NREMT issue. A Governor in theory would have say over that State they run, right? Who has oversight of NREMT? Most States tend to follow NREMT for issues like this. Yes EMS is different from State to State, can cric in State A but not in State B. Can do RSI in State B but not in State A.
All I want to do is test somewhere, anywhere. i will go to any State in the Union that would allow me to challenge. Again not asking for a card only asking for a chance to test to prove and earn a card.
So a lesson to all of you no matter what level of training you have, don't ever let in lapse for you may find yourself in the same boat as me.
Anybody got any ideas that might work?
Thanks for reading this, was long and very much exposed my ADD. I am to tired and fed up to do a spell check so sorry.
1996 I complete and graduate from a DOT Standard EMT-P Class. Pass the NREMT-P skills. Fail the written by one question, twice, in OB. For whatever resaon I walk away from it with a cert that I completed the course but no State or NREMT-P.
I remain involved in EMS but inside the hospital. I maintain BCLS, ACLS, and PALS. I work as a emergency room technician. Do some als stuff like IV's and EKG's. Don't officially intubate but am able to maintain the skill. I stay involved with ER-Tech work / skills.
Leave it all for a year or two to join the dot com world. Say 2000
Dot com bubble bursts and I return to being an ER Tech. Get ACLS PALS and BCLS current.
2005 I walk away again to go work as a vet tech in an animal er. Different kind of patient but same skills. However in addition to what I could do in people medicine, I can push drugs of any kind, advanced airway to RSI. Basically in the animal world I function as a Medic, An ICU Nurse, a PA. Yeah it is animals but to pet owners it is their babies. All the skills the medic RN and PA I can now do.
Still do animal but want to start running people again. Plan, challenge the NREMT-P. 14 years since finishing EMT-P, figure I should take courses to catch up. BCLS ACLS PALS ITLS done. Need to be an EMT-B, go and complete that and get state vert and NREMT-B. Final class I take is EMT-P refresfer 48 hours DOT approved, this class covers the scope of the classes all ready taken but most of the class is about what is missing from those classes like cric, dropping chests and so on.
I am now current yet need to take that final test, written and skills to become a lic emt-p. States seem to want current NREMT-P to take the state test. NREMT says unless i maintained EMT-P state wise within two years, I can test NREMT-P.
If it has been greater than i think either two or five years from EMT-P course completion, I must take EMT-P over again.
Re-entry NREMT-P standards I meet minus the ever being a NREMT-P or State EMT-P. I ask NREMT to take into account the classes I have taken from June to now, all the classes required to re-enter, plus i sit through EMT-B and don't take one note, pass course with a 98% average. State test score is 97% Skills Passed. EMT-P 48 hour refresher done, can i please take the CBT for NREMT-P. Answer is no, you have to repeat the class even though you have taken all these courses, we cannot process you without State EMT-P Lic. State, may I take your EMT-P written and skills test...no. Why not, cause you are not an NREMT-P.
I am at my wits end. With the economy, work, bills, and so on, i need a job as a Paramedic. Taking a 14 month course over again, what for? Everything that has changed since 1996 has been updated through the classes I have taken in 2010.
State, can I take your EMT-P Test to prove I am competent to you but we do this test off the record. The purpose is for you to come to bat with me for NREMT. A letter is needed from State for re-entry that i am good to go. State I live in PA, says no. Maryland says No. States that don't affiliate with NREMT, they all say no.
Local Congressman says he cannot help me, out of his area of authority, contact this Congressman for help. Correct Congressman says sorry i cannot help.
State Senator to US Senate, I cannot help you. Sends me the pages he downloads from NREMT
Only one left, President of the United States, Obama, have not heard from him. State of PA says Obama is powerless to help me. Maybe right maybe wrong, don't know yet. Will I ever hear from Obama, highly unlikely.
Try to meet halfway, can I test EMT-I and go from there...NO
See three possible options:
1.) Re-take EMT-P
2.) File an appeal with NREMT to test.
3.) Take legal action against State or NREMT, not very versed on the law, do I have a case, do I seek arbitration?
3a) I am sure there is some lawyer some where who would take the case. Will a court hear the case? What will the court say? OJ Simpson killed two people but a jury set him free. So Court and arbitration if options, may be wild cards at most.
NREMT use to let people challenge their tests, what happened that caused that to change?
Is there any State in the USA that will let me challenge their EMT-P test?
For God's sake I am not asking for a card or a license, I am asking for the chance to take the written test, take the skills test, to prove by passing, that I can be and EMT-P
Retaking EMT-P, why should I have to?
I am unemployed and have used savings to take all these classes to get up to date with the standards of care.
I need an EMT-P job, I need to work, I need medical for my family.
The Volunteer Fire I run with has no Medics at all. Closet Medic is 20 minutes away by ground. Sometime longer if they are on calls.
Bottom line I am a Paramedic. I completed the course. I have earned the right to say I am a Paramedic. I am an unlicensed Paramedic. I am not a NREMT-P certified.
NREMT says it is a state issue. State says it is a NREMT issue. A Governor in theory would have say over that State they run, right? Who has oversight of NREMT? Most States tend to follow NREMT for issues like this. Yes EMS is different from State to State, can cric in State A but not in State B. Can do RSI in State B but not in State A.
All I want to do is test somewhere, anywhere. i will go to any State in the Union that would allow me to challenge. Again not asking for a card only asking for a chance to test to prove and earn a card.
So a lesson to all of you no matter what level of training you have, don't ever let in lapse for you may find yourself in the same boat as me.
Anybody got any ideas that might work?
Thanks for reading this, was long and very much exposed my ADD. I am to tired and fed up to do a spell check so sorry.