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Veneficus said:
This should always have been allowed, what is the worst that can happen if you use adult pads on a dead kid?

They have burns or myocardial damage when they come back to life?
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Not to mention, in the instructor update course we had to take for the 2010 standards, they stated that in their research they saw no instances where an infant's heart couldn't take the joules.

Since this thread started off as un-productive.. Let's derail it and turn it into a discussion of the new 2010 changes including shocking infants, the team approach as opposed to just 2 rescuer and one rescuer, and the change in the depth of compressions.
 
I just taught a bls CPR class yesterday. Im surprised by the 15:2 compression to breath ratio for child 2 rescuer cpr.
 
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usafmedic45 said:
TWith babies, you have the option to Heisman the patient and get moving to hospital.
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lampnyter said:
I just taught a bls CPR class yesterday. Im surprised by the 15:2 compression to breath ratio for child 2 rescuer cpr.
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The way I understand it this is because the "majority" of child codes are due to resp. failure of one sort or another so they want to get the resp. drive going again.
 
maybe he shocked someone while they were still conscious or a maybe they were wet and it arced the current. How can you be a self employed EMT there is no med control and you would need a ton of insurance
 
samiam said:
maybe he shocked someone while they were still conscious or a maybe they were wet and it arced the current. How can you be a self employed EMT there is no med control and you would need a ton of insurance
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Or maybe hes a troll
 
This is just dangerous!
 
lampnyter said:
Ive had pt relatives who didnt want us to use the autopulse because it looked so "violent"
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I have seen relatives break down in tears when seeing patients connected to various post op or ICU life support devices.

Especially the post bypass patients who have that pale look to them.
 
Veneficus said:
I have seen relatives break down in tears when seeing patients connected to various post op or ICU life support devices.

Especially the post bypass patients who have that pale look to them.
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I can just be so shocking. Dialysis skeeves me out. I sat with my dying uncle while he was having his last dialysis run, and he just up and decided that he was DONE. He HATED watching his blood run around outside his body.

I can see being upset by medical stuff, it's just crazy sometimes.
 
samiam said:
maybe he shocked someone while they were still conscious or a maybe they were wet and it arced the current. How can you be a self employed EMT there is no med control and you would need a ton of insurance
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Don't read too much into it, the OP is just trolling
 
Brown is just a wee bit concerned .... time to get in the big orange helicopter and fly far, far, far away

Come Oz, it's not a go but lets get out of here!

This guy doesn't even qualify for the Parathinktheyare award for poor prehopital medisin sponsored by the Houston Fire Department and thier 16 week zero to Paramedic course .... it's just pale in comparison to this dude
 
The sad thing is, not everyone is a troll. There are most definitely people dumb enough to do these things haha

I wonder how many people call themselves "self-employed EMT's" when they can't pass the NREMT or written exams in hiring processes. Or even background checks, sheesh
 
I think that the interval of VF is pretty short, though, and is missed unless the arrest is witnessed.
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Most of the data I have seen is that the duration in kids is about the same as in adults. Also, most pedi arrests are witnessed (again based on the data I have seen), outside of the "Where'd Bobby go? What do you mean you heard a splash a few minutes ago?" variety.
 
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