Self Defence in EMS

its krav maga and it is hardky desinged for stupid people. It is designed to be taught to physically fit people in a short amount of time and be effective in combat situations. Of course most civilian versions are taught to whoever has the money and is usually never going to see combat. So Krav Maga gets dumbed down and is taught over a long period of time to people not in shape but can afford the bill.

Krava Maga is not desingned for EMS use but than again I don't know a martial art that is. THe only martial art that closely resembles it philosphically (not harming the opponent) is aikido and you can not do aikido in an ambulance. Furthermore aikido is not trained live. There are parts of aikido trained from kneeling. I guess this might be good for EMS because we may be kneeling at a scene or sitting in a rig.
 
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I agree with where you are going with this. I also feel that I may have miss phrased my description of Krav mada, by saying "designed to be taught to stupid people quickly". What I should have said is designed so it can even be taught to stupid people in a short amount of time and be effectively executed.

As for Aikido there are a few issue with that.

1) It is traditionally a martial art that teaches very large movments that take up space and requires room to gain and shift momentum.( yes you are correct, can not be executed with in the confines of an ambulence.)

2)Is a complex art that takes years of study, dedication and disapline in order to effectively execute in a combat situation.
 
I agree with the aikido having too large movements but the material they have on operating from the knees is worth examing.

I believe self defense need to be trained on a regular basis so that in and of it self is not a negative towards aikido. I think the negative is the lack of live training.
 
A few points I would like to address that were brought up by Psycho. First of all, krav maga was never intended to be taught as a martial art. It has become one after being commercialized. I don't know where the "stupid" people part came from, but those learning quick and violent methods of defense usually have an immediate need and will not become experts in a "style." However, they have one more tool that they didn't have prior to the training. I agree that learning from tapes, manuals and DVD's also is not equal to hands on instruction. However, sometimes, it's important to know "what you don't know."
Secondly; although to master Aikido takes many years and much discipline, the ability to control your balance does not require gross or large muscle movements. Many of the traditional techniques can be adapted for non martial arts use.

I draw this analogy: Knowing how to fire a pistol accurately into a paper target does not mentally or physically prepare me to face an armed assaillant. However,understanding the mechanics of firing a pistol gives me a pretty good head start.
 
To both Pyscho and Firecoins: You both are certainly good ambassadors for martial arts training. As such, you undoubtedly have given a lot of thought to the best and most effective responses to an attack situation. Unfortunately, as some have pointed out, there are many in the field that have no training, nor do they wish to adjust their lifestyle that much to gain the experience and skill level that you have. That is why it is important for a program like this to be simple and geared toward escaping that sudden and unexpected sccenario that may surface on a scene. I happen to know what is being taught in DT4EMS and I am also well versed in martial arts and defensive tactics. I feel confident that escape techniques and tactics can not only be taught in 16 hours, but can form a foundation for a survival mindset.
 
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