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What are the best/worst online training programs?
 
They are all of minimal quality and should be avoided. I would immediately decline to interview someone who went through an online training program. In fact, I would probably make calls to all of the other local EMS agencies where my friends work to let them know we have an effecitvely untrained person making the rounds looking for work. EMS training is easy enough and if you are looking for shortcuts, I don't want you working on me or anyone else I care about. I most certainly would not want someone like that working under me either where I would be responsible for their errors.
 
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You make a compelling case, usafmedic45. I'm not looking for shortcuts; just investigating.
 
Good to know. I just figured I should be up front with you about the way these things are viewed.
 
They are all of minimal quality and should be avoided. I would immediately decline to interview someone who went through an online training program. In fact, I would probably make calls to all of the other local EMS agencies where my friends work to let them know we have an effecitvely untrained person making the rounds looking for work. EMS training is easy enough and if you are looking for shortcuts, I don't want you working on me or anyone else I care about. I most certainly would not want someone like that working under me either where I would be responsible for their errors.

So I can accrue college credit for online courses but not for EMS? Please
Ive watched people sleep through half a Bachelor's degree.

There mere fact they have to show up isnt going to gaurentee anything, trust me I can park you in front of a few professors tommorrow that will make you want to jam a pencil in your eye, thats if you can stay awake long enough, completely disconnected, monotone and boring. If your dedicated and prepared online courses can be flexible, economical and a fantastic way to learn.

The world is changing, I dont need a professor sitting in front me to determine or babysit how I learn, its about the student, do the work get the prize.

It may not be for everyone but to dismiss it because all we know is brick and mortar education is prehistoric.
 
So I can accrue college credit for online courses but not for EMS?

If someone can come out with a good way to deliver it and maintain quality, I'll be happy to hold it in good standing. No one has managed to do it so far. The main problem is that our job is so "hands on" and technique intensive that it requires a lot of individual interaction that's simply not possible through distance education. It works very well for the general studies side of the equation, but after that you really need to have mentorship more than you need to have education. That's something that is lacking even in most traditional EMS training programs.

BTW, I say this as someone who is using distance education to complete the general education stuff for his bachelors degree.

Sincerely yours,

Steve
Hypocrite. ;)
 
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How about courses that have the lectures, workbook exercises, etc. online and then make you visit a campus in order to complete the hands-on training, practical exam, etc.?
 
How about courses that have the lectures, workbook exercises, etc. online and then make you visit a campus in order to complete the hands-on training, practical exam, etc.?

At a minimum online ems courses should have to do this, but there is one problem. Your hands on skill sessions aren't necessarily be time correlated with the material, which is unfortunate. You could learn to start IVs in your first online class and then never get to practice it until your hands on session months later. The colleges around me that teach ems would have you learning the material in class and practicing skills the same day, then on a truck practicing in the field the same week.
 
As I've said elsewhere, online EMT schools fill a niche. Not everyone has the same access to Bricks-and-Mortars institutions and have no choice.

To out of hand dismiss anyone who has taken an online class, simply because they have taken an online class, is foolish. I may not care for online EMS, but I'm still willing to give people a chance. Furthermore, to blackball/blacklist someone because of their choice of school is unethical and bordering on illegal.

Not everyone views online school with such utter disdain.
 
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