Old guys, help the new guys...getting respect

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What are the signs of the sort of newbie whackerishness that just begs for people to treat new folks like nim-nulls?

Let me throw the first stone: Choose a moniker/avatar that don't sound or look like somethning a thirteen year old would do. Here's your chance to sto being called Percival or Lancelot, make it count.B)

Next?

PS: typos also look amateurish. I cultivate them to make people think I can't type to disguise my real identity.
 
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If you have little to no experience, remember while you are still entitled to your opinion it holds little to no weight. One thing that grates my nerves is to see a new person come in and tell us how it should be, what we should do, etc especially when they are either a) still in emt school, or even worse, b) not even in emt school yet.

Also, don't spout of crap without the ability to back it up.

Also no "U" "ur" "kool" "str8" talk. or !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or ................................................. in your posts. And typing in all caps does not get your post across better, it makes you sound like you are yelling and no one takes kindly to being yelled at. Just because you talk louder does not make you right.
 
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IRL: Get a very poorly done tat of the star of life in a very visible spot behind your ear during EMT school.

Here:
EMS is different in every state, and every EMT program is different as well. Most of the time, the agencies that regulate EMS and the organizations that put on EMT classes have websites with information. I can almost guarantee they all have phone numbers. This forum is usually not the best place to ask if you can take the EMT class before you turn 18, or how to get state certified, or if you have to take a drug test, or whatever.

You should know which state agency regulates training/certification. Your instructor should have told you this - if they haven't then they're skipping over very important information, or they did cover it and you weren't paying attention. Either way - ask them. If you're not in a class yet - congratulations, you have a little homework to do. Find out before you even start. Seems in most states EMS training/certification is regulated by the state Health Department or a branch of it.

Most questions like "Where can I take an EMT class" or "How do I get my state cert" can be best answered by either your EMT program or the state agency that handles EMT training/certification.

Yes, I can probably also find that information for you myself even if you live in a different state, but it's not because I'm some all-knowing EMS goddess. It's because I can use google. You can use google too, trust me. If google fails you can always pick up the phone or ask the person teaching your class. If you're not in a class yet, so what, call the educational program you plan on attending. If you don't even know what educational programs are out there, back to step one - google! It's magic.
 
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LucidResq said:
IRL: Get a very poorly done tat of the star of life in a very visible spot behind your ear during EMT school.

Here:
EMS is different in every state, and every EMT program is different as well. Most of the time, the agencies that regulate EMS and the organizations that put on EMT classes have websites with information. I can almost guarantee they all have phone numbers. This forum is usually not the best place to ask if you can take the EMT class before you turn 18, or how to get state certified, or if you have to take a drug test, or whatever.

You should know which state agency regulates training/certification. Your instructor should have told you this - if they haven't then they're skipping over very important information, or they did cover it and you weren't paying attention. Either way - ask them. If you're not in a class yet - congratulations, you have a little homework to do. Find out before you even start. Seems in most states EMS training/certification is regulated by the state Health Department or a branch of it.

Most questions like "Where can I take an EMT class" or "How do I get my state cert" can be best answered by either your EMT program or the state agency that handles EMT training/certification.

Yes, I can probably also find that information for you myself even if you live in a different state, but it's not because I'm some all-knowing EMS goddess. It's because I can use google. You can use google too, trust me. If google fails you can always pick up the phone or ask the person teaching your class. If you're not in a class yet, so what, call the educational program you plan on attending. If you don't even know what educational programs are out there, back to step one - google! It's magic.
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While I agree with you somewhat, I also think this forum is a prime opportunity for students to interact with people that know what they're talking about. Heck, I've found some people in CA that have experience or even went to the same school I'll be attending. I'll admit, I start class this August, and I've never taken an EMT course yet. I usually don't post in any of the threads that I have no experience with, but heck, I certainly do read them, and learn from them.
 
Well of course it's a good place for students to interact. How do you think I started on this forum?

I just think we all get a little bit irritated when someone asks for the 8th billion time, "how do I get my California state certification?" or "I have a DUI can I be an EMT?" Stuff like that.

Other questions are welcome of course.
 
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Well of course it's a good place for students to interact. How do you think I started on this forum?

I just think we all get a little bit irritated when someone asks for the 8th billion time, "how do I get my California state certification?" or "I have a DUI can I be an EMT?" Stuff like that.

Other questions are welcome of course.
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Or what boots should i buy, what stethescope is best, what penlight will be the brightest.
 
Just last night,before our regular squad meeting, one of our EMT trainees (passed the class but can't pass National Registry) told a 28yr. veteran EMT that she was filling out the schedule wrong in his opinion. She could be his grandmother and I thought she may take him over her knee! He learned very quickly.
 
Sasha said:
Also no "U" "ur" "kool" "str8" talk. or !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or ................................................. in your posts. And typing in all caps does not get your post across better, it makes you sound like you are yelling and no one takes kindly to being yelled at. Just because you talk louder does not make you right.
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Y u dissin my dots??????????????????????????? lol

Ur still kook in my book tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
flight-lp said:
y u dissin my dots??????????????????????????? Lol

ur still kook in my book tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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it took my all-caps away!!!! Infuriating.
 
The dots are called an ellipsis. Plural ellipses.

I had to learn that because I rely on them to replicate my speech.
Also, I use them to denote ten characters with tapping fingers.
.... .... .... ....
or bad Morse code.

Being aware of the onset of "keyboard kourage" is good to have also, some of our new folks have flamed large then flamed out. Stick around a spell!
 
There Is NO Escape!

If an FNG has a weak spot, the FOGs will find it. If they can't find one, they'll make one up...and it'll stick! This is called the dues you pay so when you become an FOG, you can mess with the FNGs and enjoy it.
 
firetender said:
If an FNG has a weak spot, the FOGs will find it. If they can't find one, they'll make one up...and it'll stick! This is called the dues you pay so when you become an FOG, you can mess with the FNGs and enjoy it.
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Nice!
 
PotashRLS said:
Just last night,before our regular squad meeting, one of our EMT trainees (passed the class but can't pass National Registry) told a 28yr. veteran EMT that she was filling out the schedule wrong in his opinion. She could be his grandmother and I thought she may take him over her knee! He learned very quickly.
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I think I caught a medic lying on a PCR on my ride along the other day, but I definitely shouldn't say anything, because I don't know anything...

Specific situation: Wrote that parts of the assessment were negative (ie, abdomen soft upon palpation), when that part of the assessment was neither done nor indicated (it was a BLS patient with an extremity injury and no severe MOI).
 
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New guys need a trial subscription.

Ley 'em make thier mistakes, then let 'em come back with a different moniker.

Once.
 
jjesusfreak01 said:
I think I caught a medic lying on a PCR on my ride along the other day, but I definitely shouldn't say anything, because I don't know anything...

Specific situation: Wrote that parts of the assessment were negative (ie, abdomen soft upon palpation), when that part of the assessment was neither done nor indicated (it was a BLS patient with an extremity injury and no severe MOI).
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You think or you know? Is it possible that they made a mistake rather than lying? I had a similar mistake on one of my ride along times (actually my first call ever too as an EMT student), but I rode with one of my instructors (not EMT instructor though, she was a different medical class that was supplemental to the EMT class) on an ALS unit and she made the mistake of saying that the pt's RUQ was rigid when it was really his RLQ instead while she was filling out the PCR. I pointed that out saying "Hey, don't you remember it was the RLQ when you were asking me what is in the RLQ?" and she was like "Oh yeh, good catch", fixed it, and it was all good. A part of being EMS is also catching your partner's mistake to save your behind (you get in trouble too for not catching it and probably more so for not speaking up if you knew) and theirs.People make mistakes, help 'em out, but don't be wreckless when doing it e.g. "Hey, aren't you lying on your PCR?" isn't a good thing to say to somebody you're (hopefully) learning from... In something like that situation I would've asked how does he know it's negative there? Maybe he palpated it when you weren't looking? Maybe he was visualizing for distention rather than feeling for tenderness (from my experience, it looks like a beer belly when it's rigid so maybe he just visualized it although I would've personally palpated it, ask if they feel bloated, and if their belly looks abnormal to them). Just my feeling on that situation with the info you provided us.
 
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Well, I think it might have been a mistake because the new medic was incorrectly trained on assessment (rn to medic bridge). Either they accidentally wrote it because they just get so used to writing that on pcrs, or they incorrectly believed that it was supposed to be there and wrote something that never happened. Seeing as I was with the pt the entire time, I doubt they did a detailed full body assessment without me noticing.

Problem here is that the medics write the pcrs in a room off of the er that's usually filled with at least a few other medics. Ride along kid is not going to call out a medic unless we are alone. When I say call out I mean discuss the issue in a friendly manner.
 
Oh, I get it, a parody.

Newbies use threads like PM's and start talking about cases instead of following the thread.;)
 
I'll PM you. Welcome aboard Matey( ARRRgh)

..........;)
 
are we talking about irl or not

if its in irl then you give respect to the people who have ben there longer, and on formes; ervry ones different. im an emt student in wa i cant spell very well but well enuf to get my point across. about the "ears" (dont ask me to spell it bacause even whin i try to spell chek it i get a WHAT) i got mine free form the hospitall at my medical rotation they came from the icu and they were new
 
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