Narcan for the public

n7lxi said:
I'm curious, where is the quote from "the Obama administration" that claims Narcan is "a cure for addiction"?
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Yes please I would like to see a link to the referenced quote as well.
 
Linuss said:
Comment?

When used on a person from a non-educated, often hysterical family/friend, it will have 2 stages: Wake them up all pissed off, violent, and vomiting due to the full dose being given.
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You have to admit if this happened often enough it might just cure em :) If every time I drank beer someone jabbed me with a needle and then I went through rapid detox symptoms I'm thinking I'd probably stop drinking beer.

I don't necessarily see anything wrong with the idea behind a program like this. Think about how many times we are called to a scene where some long term addict is in the care of their family. The family knows what's happening and generally can tell you exactly what's going on and how it was treated last time. In many ways these situations are no different than a family who lives with a mom/dad/son/daughter who suffers from any long term chronic illness like a seizure disorder or copd/asthma. In these cases the family is often taught to administer medication to the patient in order to buy time. How is this any different? But they did it to themselves you say? Smoking/COPD, overweight,poor diet,noncompliance/Hypoglycemia, addiction/overdose, from a strictly medical point of view there really is no difference between these.
 
aside from the blatent Obama jab,

Why do we care?

So they want to hand out narcan to drug addicts...

Despite what most people think that is not new.

Most outpatient methadone clinics give a methadone/narcan mix.

Narcan is destroyed by stomach acid, it is how they prevent the methadone from being cooked down an injected IV.

Nobody ever worried about what would happen if abusers did that.

Let the pharm company market their injector. After all, somebody will be paying for it and I doubt very much it will be the heroin addicts.
 
"The Obama Administration is touting it as a cure for addiction". Libel short weeks before the election. Where is the citation?

Narcan is a drug, it is not "mother's milk", no drug is "safe" ("every medicine is a poison taken in sublethal doses for its beneficial side effects"). I know ER professionals would like for people to stop dumping their OD'ed buddies as they drive by the ER, but this would be crazy, if true.
 
n7lxi said:
I'm curious, where is the quote from "the Obama administration" that claims Narcan is "a cure for addiction"?
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The article referenced the Obama administration as supporting the use of Narcan.

The article may have been edited or it may be a different source. When I initially read the arcticle on my cell phone app, it stated that the Obama Administration was supporting it. Now, reading the article on the same site I see that it name Obama's drug Czar, Gil Kerlikowske as being the "Obama Source." I also see now that the article mentions training of civilians, which the original did not mention.

I am assuming that the website, EMS1.com, is citing a new source with updated information (Boston Hearld) than what was originally shown.
 
leoemt said:
The article referenced the Obama administration as supporting the use of Narcan.

The article may have been edited or it may be a different source. When I initially read the arcticle on my cell phone app, it stated that the Obama Administration was supporting it. Now, reading the article on the same site I see that it name Obama's drug Czar, Gil Kerlikowske as being the "Obama Source." I also see now that the article mentions training of civilians, which the original did not mention.

I am assuming that the website, EMS1.com, is citing a new source with updated information (Boston Hearld) than what was originally shown.
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So there is no citation then? No link you can provide?
 
As a side note, would it really surprise anyone if the Obama administration did in fact make such a ludicrous statement? :rolleyes:
 
NYMedic828 said:
As a side note, would it really surprise anyone if the Obama administration did in fact make such a ludicrous statement? :rolleyes:
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It wouldn't surprise me if any politician made such a statement if they thought it would get them a vote.
 
Googled the heck out of it. No primary sources. In fact, there was an article saying the Australian national government was looking at doing it. It is understandable if one reads about it second hand from a favored source and it seems to make sense to pass it on, but that is how disinformation works. I've been burned quite a few times by my passing on info that turned out to be bad.:blush:
 
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