First Football Detail! Any tips?

NJSIAA rules also state an ambulance must be on scene prior to kickoff


Drive to game
Park
Watch Football
Get free snacks
Keep cadets away from girls
Go Home

Make sure your uniform is cleaned and sharp, polish your boots
Aint much to it
 
Tigger said:
There will likely be an athletic trainer present given that football is a contact sport. Introduce yourself to the ATC and see if he has any requests about where to put your truck and stuff. Also go over how he will notify you if your assistance is required. For what it's worth you don't really work with the training staff, they can take care of 99% of the injuries themselves and will do so. I currently work as an assistant athletic trainer and my boss gets a bit peeved when our paramedics are milling around the treatment area throwing their two cents in about how to treat various injuries.

If you end up on the field, listen to the ATC's instructions. He is more than competent in spinalling someone and things of that nature. He will probably already have manual c-spine, don't bother having him relinquish it or anything like that. With football helmets you can usually leave it on along with the shoulder pads to maintain a neutral spine. The facemask will still have to come off, but the ATC should be able to do that for you prior to transport. If you have to transport a player, the ATC will likely want to ride in so as to assist the ED staff in removing equipment.
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Thank you and everyone else for the advice!!!

Will also keep an eye out for frito pie and off the JB

Cheers yall

I will let you know how it goes
 
Do an in depth assessment for good looking single moms or college girls and wow I feel jipped on life by not having a frito pie!
 
Veneficus said:
Don't fall for the jailbait.
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Ah, yes. A true pearl of wisdom. If you get bored, you could talk to the trainers if they're not busy and learn some ortho stuff. Often times, you can determine an injury with history and your bare hands.
 
Tigger said:
There will likely be an athletic trainer present given that football is a contact sport. Introduce yourself to the ATC and see if he has any requests about where to put your truck and stuff. Also go over how he will notify you if your assistance is required. For what it's worth you don't really work with the training staff, they can take care of 99% of the injuries themselves and will do so. I currently work as an assistant athletic trainer and my boss gets a bit peeved when our paramedics are milling around the treatment area throwing their two cents in about how to treat various injuries.

If you end up on the field, listen to the ATC's instructions. He is more than competent in spinalling someone and things of that nature. He will probably already have manual c-spine, don't bother having him relinquish it or anything like that. With football helmets you can usually leave it on along with the shoulder pads to maintain a neutral spine. The facemask will still have to come off, but the ATC should be able to do that for you prior to transport. If you have to transport a player, the ATC will likely want to ride in so as to assist the ED staff in removing equipment.
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Athletic trainers are way more trained than paramedics on ortho stuff. It's their job. They're like mini-physical therapists.
 
Doczilla said:
Athletic trainers are way more trained than paramedics on ortho stuff. It's their job. They're like mini-physical therapists.
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Indeed. My current boss is an ATC (I am his minion, and EMT "backup"). Calling his knowledge immense is just scratching the surface. We have an in house PT/ATC, but we can handle most injuries and rehab on our own.
 
Fredos lays with cheese looks so good right now, to bad my partner is in a diet, he doesnt want me eating anything around him in our 11 hr rig because it influences him to eat junk food. :S
 
Doczilla said:
Ah, yes. A true pearl of wisdom. If you get bored, you could talk to the trainers if they're not busy and learn some ortho stuff. Often times, you can determine an injury with history and your bare hands.
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Doczilla said:
Athletic trainers are way more trained than paramedics on ortho stuff. It's their job. They're like mini-physical therapists.
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ATC's can do a lot more than PT's can do... if you step outside the Rehab arena. Within the rehab arena, PT's can do a whole lot more than an ATC can. I was trained to be an ATC, just never got certified. You're very much right: you can determine and sometimes even diagnose an injury with your bare hands, a good history, and a thorough knowledge of the anatomy.

In short, if you're called out to deal with a problem on the field, it's because the ATC needs you to do something that they can't deal with. Chances are good that it involves transportation or airway control...

The typical ATC has at least a Bachelor's degree and years of specialized training/education along with it that a Paramedic is likely to never get. Paramedics don't learn to do all the ortho exam stuff. Paramedics don't learn biomechanics or injury physiology. They don't learn normal A&P. I'd be very surprised if an ATC that's been put through an EMT course, ACLS/PALS and PHTLS couldn't pass the NREMT-P written exam. Give one a few days to practice the stuff, and they might even be able to pass the practical as well. That's without going to a formal "P" school, folks. Of course if they actually work as a Paramedic, they'd have to remember that there's a lot of assessment stuff they'd not be allowed to use...

Oh, and the e-stim machines can be fun to play with... there's far more customization to electrical current with those than you get with a cardiac pacer. The results of playing around with them too much can be fun, painful, or be flat-out hazardous to health.
 
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