Lenoir Community College online medic program?

[Jambi]

Congratulations on passing! Good luck on your state exam. Are you going to sit for the NREMT?

 

[jamorris64]

Jeff,

Thanks for the good word and great work you did.

 

[jeffy]

I want to sit for the NREMT......going to worry about the state test first, lol. What is on the NR tests? Ive heard the it is like a question with three correct answers and you have to pick the most correct one.

No problem James, you earned it. Myself and the rest of us really appreciate the effort that you put into the class and the access that you allowed us to have to you if there was a question. Lets face it, not too many instructors would not get mad at an 11PM text or phone call to ask a question.

 

[jeffy]

Took the state test and passed with little issue.

Here is how it worked out......

Started the course with 38 students and 9 survived to see the last week. Seven (7) finished the class successfully and all 7 of us sat the test on the same day at the same location and all 7 of us passed.

As a bonus I got picked up by a county EMS system and start on the 17th as a medic.

 

[jamorris64]

Jeff,

That is AWESOME!!!!

 

[Jambi]

Great to hear! Viva La Lenoir! :beerchug:

 

[Ladybug]

To: JAMORRIS64

Unfortunately I could not email or PM you since I am new to the forum and only have 1 post:


I just passed the State EMT-B and am interested in learning more about the program. I live in the Asheboro area, so most importantly I would like to know where the 500 hours of clinicals can be done. Also, since Sat/Sun skills are required once a month, would there be an affordable place to stay overnight during those times?

I am interested in starting in Nov, someone told me that you can be tested and the time period would be around 26 weeks if you already have the EMT-B certification.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

 

[ExpatMedic0]

interesting. Just some questions regarding this format. If your able to complete the (aprox)600 clock hours of classroom portion mostly online,(excluding all the certification check off's and skill cards like ACLS) you still have to complete the other 600(aprox) hours of clinical rotations and field internship correct?

Are there any pre rec's required like A&P or Biology, or 1-2 years of EMT experience?

 

[Jambi]

Are you referring to the paramedic outreach program or the on-campus one? What you are describing doesn't sound like what I did.

I'll give you a better response when i'm in front of a computer.

Have you called or emailed the program? That's the best way to get the info you seek.

 

[jamorris64]

Ladybug,

We have clinical and EMS sites contract with approx 50 hospitals and 80 EMS services throughout all of North Carolina. We have numerous sites all throughout the nation to assist our out of state students. I will be glad to talk to you if you could get your phone number or you can look go to faculty directory on our website.

Have a good and safe weekend.

 

[Jambi]

interesting. Just some questions regarding this format. If your able to complete the (aprox)600 clock hours of classroom portion mostly online,(excluding all the certification check off's and skill cards like ACLS) you still have to complete the other 600(aprox) hours of clinical rotations and field internship correct?

Are there any pre rec's required like A&P or Biology, or 1-2 years of EMT experience?

To answer your questions...

The majority of content was delivered online. Basically it was, these are the assigned chapters, read them. There were "quizzes" for each chapter, but they were used as a study tool. these quizzes were not graded outside of needing to simply complete them. There were section exams that were graded. These were timed exams and you're not supposed to use any material (cheat). It was an honor system. The time-frame was such that looking up material/answers was not practical, but if you really wanted to cheat a person could...though having gone through the programs, with the way it's setup up, cheating would have been more work than simply learning the material.

Ultimately, students must pass in-class written exams, along with technical scope of practice exams.

There is a requisite A&P course that needs to be completed before or during the program.

The clinical and field hours are completed in the area the student is from if possible. I did my field time here in California, and split my clinical time between NC and here.

I do not remember if EMT experience was a requirement or not.

The program is not for everyone. If a person is a self-starter and is able to learn on his or her own, then they should be fine. It helps to have a support network of current providers to draw upon, but the instructors were always available via phone and email for questions.

The delivery method is valid. Lecture is one of the least effective methods of education people unless those people are already educated (don't have a source with me to back this up, but it was a major concept in my educational theory courses). Since most people going into paramedic programs are not educated, well, there are better ways. This I believe is one of them.

My reasons for going to the Lenoir distance program were economic and personal.

First, I got bored being an EMT and just decided to take the opportunity.

Second, it was an opportunity because going to a traditional program requiring large amounts of seat time was not economically feasible. I have two jobs that I must work to support the family. Sitting in a class room, on their schedule costs me too much money.

It was, in the end, cheaper to pay for the program and fly out there, than it would have been to sit in the classrooms of the programs here in my state.

 

[Jambi]

Unfortunately I could not email or PM you since I am new to the forum and only have 1 post:


I just passed the State EMT-B and am interested in learning more about the program. I live in the Asheboro area, so most importantly I would like to know where the 500 hours of clinicals can be done. Also, since Sat/Sun skills are required once a month, would there be an affordable place to stay overnight during those times?

I am interested in starting in Nov, someone told me that you can be tested and the time period would be around 26 weeks if you already have the EMT-B certification.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

I didn't forget about you, but James answered your question. Call the program and ask these questions, or look on their website.

Not to be mean, but being able to find out such information on your own would be a good barometer on your ability to be successful in the program.
(resourcefulness, self-starting, etc)

If you do decide to go this route good luck, it's a good program with some incredible instructors.

P.S. James love his twelve leads

P.P.S I wouldn't recommend this program with little exposure to the EMS field, though I believe this could be made up with a solid education background in relevant sciences.

 

[ExpatMedic0]

crazy man. I have just never herd of a system like this.

 

[Jambi]

crazy man. I have just never herd of a system like this.

It's certainly novel. There are a 2 or 3 other programs doing this I think. Distance education is not new and there's lots of evidence to back up its validity, it's just new to the field of EMS. I'd go so far as saying that this sort of format is needed in light of the push for better penetration of ALS into rural and under served areas which are usually volunteer and under/unfunded.

Excelsior college has had a distance RN program for some years now. It's not without its detractors mind you, but it works...

I don't think it's too crazy. I know many medical schools do not have mandatory attendance, thus students are allowed to choose whether or not to attend class or study the material based on class notes and class objectives, and showing to take exams.

Of course medical schools are dealing with a different caliber of student.

I'm sure there have been misteps and setbacks to the Lenoir program. I know that the program has undergone many changes to refine its model of delivery, etc. The important thing, I suppose, is that the program has committed to supporting this model, AND committed to evolving it based on lessons learned.

It has been my experience that the traditional paramedics programs in my area are only committed to the tradition of their model and not evolved their programs in any meaningful way. People tend to do what they know, and it's no different in education, particularly in the vocational fields where advanced education may be rare if present at all.

 

[Jambi]

crazy man. I have just never herd of a system like this.

I'd also like to add that your statement was the first thing that went through my mind when I first discovered the program.

 

[GoNoles01]

I'm hopefully starting in the november class and am very excited to be a part of it, everyone is questioning the online program but that's because they don't know what its about and only gives me more motivation to do it and show them that some of these cert mills aren't what people think and that if you put in the time this type of program will work. We have set up clinical contracts where I live and because we have got over 15 people they said they will come down and teach us here(I'm from Ga) so that's really good of them to help us out, thanks for the info posted on here it really helped my decision to go here. I did call the school but is always nice to hear from a student who went through.

 

[Jambi]

I'm hopefully starting in the november class and am very excited to be a part of it, everyone is questioning the online program but that's because they don't know what its about and only gives me more motivation to do it and show them that some of these cert mills aren't what people think and that if you put in the time this type of program will work. We have set up clinical contracts where I live and because we have got over 15 people they said they will come down and teach us here(I'm from Ga) so that's really good of them to help us out, thanks for the info posted on here it really helped my decision to go here. I did call the school but is always nice to hear from a student who went through.

Good luck!

People equate online with easy when in reality it's just another method of delivery. It's different than the traditional lecture model practiced for centuries so people are automatically skeptical.

My buddy in medical school doesn't even bother going to class most of the time. the lectures are recorded and he watches them at 2x speed and studies at home. He just goes in for things he must...he can't dissect a cadaver at home after all.

Just as a fair warning. It's going to be challenge for anyone without significant/meaningful education experience because you need to know how to learn, how you learn, and how to decide what's important when reading etc.

 

[Rialaigh]

I am starting this program in November (the 5th I believe) and am looking forward to it. Obviously any kind of education (especially online) is what you make of it and I am hoping that there might be some people on here that live in the area that might take a little time out of their week to further the education of some poor young fool...

I will hopefully be doing my clinicals and field time at the CMC main ER and through Medic 911 in Charlotte. I think that is the best bet in my area to see a high volume and vast variety of types of calls and patients. If anyone has any advice on how to break up your clinical time (I believe it 200 hours, only 80 or so are required to be in the ER) I would appreciate the advice. I am not sure if all 200 in the ER would be better or if some time spent in critical care would be helpful as well. I do have experience working as a tech in a variety of settings ranging from med surge to ED, to critical care and CVICU, as well as behavioral floors.

Any advice on the clinicals would be appreciated

 

[Jambi]

I am starting this program in November (the 5th I believe) and am looking forward to it. Obviously any kind of education (especially online) is what you make of it and I am hoping that there might be some people on here that live in the area that might take a little time out of their week to further the education of some poor young fool...

I will hopefully be doing my clinicals and field time at the CMC main ER and through Medic 911 in Charlotte. I think that is the best bet in my area to see a high volume and vast variety of types of calls and patients. If anyone has any advice on how to break up your clinical time (I believe it 200 hours, only 80 or so are required to be in the ER) I would appreciate the advice. I am not sure if all 200 in the ER would be better or if some time spent in critical care would be helpful as well. I do have experience working as a tech in a variety of settings ranging from med surge to ED, to critical care and CVICU, as well as behavioral floors.

Any advice on the clinicals would be appreciated

First thing to remember is that 200 hours is the minimum clinical time. If it were me, I'd spend a large portion of my time in the ED then split up the rest of the time between the various wards like ICU, L&D, Pediatrics, Anesthesiology, and anything else that sounds interesting and anywhere they'll let you hang out.

 

[Rialaigh]

First thing to remember is that 200 hours is the minimum clinical time. If it were me, I'd spend a large portion of my time in the ED then split up the rest of the time between the various wards like ICU, L&D, Pediatrics, Anesthesiology, and anything else that sounds interesting and anywhere they'll let you hang out.

I would love to have the time to do more than 200 hours but I will have to capitalize on the time I do have, all during the paramedic class and while I am doing field time and ride along's I will be working as a float pool tech in the local hospital as I have been for 2 and a half years. I'm just wondering if spending any time outside the ER will be worth the sacrifice (of not getting that time in the ER) as I have already been exposed to all the areas of the hospital