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[PhilRozzi]

Hey guys i'm new to this forum so I will ask this here. I am a self-employed emt and I am in the process of purchasing a new defibulator. My old one was confiscated by my County's ems squad due to misuse. I was pondering of purchasing a HeartStart Onsite. Is this any good, or is there something of a more reasonable price out there?

 

[WolfmanHarris]

Is this a joke?

 

[Combat_Medic]

It has to be.

 

[Joedaddy1120]

And not a funny one at that.

 

[medicRob]

I think I just died a little inside..

 

[HotelCo]

Here's an AED that you can use all day, if you want! You shouldn't have to worry about this one being confiscated...


http://tinyurl.com/4e95fmb

 

[Veneficus]

I think that is a joke or a troll.

How do you "misuse" an AED?

As well, what EMS agency has the ability to confiscate personal property without due process of law?

 

[lampnyter]

How do you "misuse" an AED?

Must of been sticking people with the pads when they werent looking.

 

[nemedic]

Maybe he reverse engineered it to be able to manually defib people, and be able to make grilled cheese sandwiches

 

[lampnyter]

Maybe he reverse engineered it to be able to manually defib people, and be able to make grilled cheese sandwiches

Yea just like now the AHA wants us to shock infants with a pad on its chest and back.

 

[abckidsmom]

Yea just like now the AHA wants us to shock infants with a pad on its chest and back.

I laughed, even though I knew it was wrong, wrong, wrong!

 

[lampnyter]

I laughed, even though I knew it was wrong, wrong, wrong!

AND we are allowed to use adult pads if we dont have child/infant pads

 

[abckidsmom]

AND we are allowed to use adult pads if we dont have child/infant pads

Good thing the chance of a shockable rhythym is so low...that could be ugly.

I've never seen it outside of one crazy sick kid in a PICU.

 

[usafmedic45]

Good thing the chance of a shockable rhythym is so low...that could be ugly.

Actually it's not that low. "VF occurs as the initial rhythm in 8-20% of pediatric cardiac arrests." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2938491/?tool=pubmed
Haskell SE, Atkins DL. Defibrillation in children. J Emerg Trauma Shock. 2010 Jul;3(3):261-6.

 

[lampnyter]

I could only imagine what the parents would say if they saw us sandwich their baby between 2 adult AED pads.

 

[Veneficus]

AND we are allowed to use adult pads if we dont have child/infant pads

This should always have been allowed, what is the worst that can happen if you use adult pads on a dead kid?

They have burns or myocardial damage when they come back to life?

 

[Veneficus]

I could only imagine what the parents would say if they saw us sandwich their baby between 2 adult AED pads.

They probably wouldn't have the presence of mind to know or care.

If the kid comes back you are a hero.

If not, you tried everything you could think of.

 

[usafmedic45]

I could only imagine what the parents would say if they saw us sandwich their baby between 2 adult AED pads.

Most of them don't give a :censored::censored::censored::censored:. I had done it several times before the AED manufacturers started making pedi pads. As Veny said, if you save the kid, you're their favorite person. If you don't, you were just taking "heroic measures".

 

[lampnyter]

Ive had pt relatives who didnt want us to use the autopulse because it looked so "violent"

 

[usafmedic45]

True, I've seen that before as well....most parents of a dying baby are willing to grasp at any straw. Also that's the beauty of having the fire department and the cops on scene most of the time for this sort of call: if they cause a problem, have someone escort them out of the room. With babies, you have the option to Heisman the patient and get moving to hospital.