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I'm curious, how many of you have heard of, for lack of a better term, Shift Pay Parity?

This is where those who work a 24 hour shift are paid less than those working 12 hour shifts, so that at the end of the year everyone makes the same amount.

I don't like it, at all, so, how common is this?
 
Medic2409 said:
I'm curious, how many of you have heard of, for lack of a better term, Shift Pay Parity?

This is where those who work a 24 hour shift are paid less than those working 12 hour shifts, so that at the end of the year everyone makes the same amount.

I don't like it, at all, so, how common is this?
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Our medics on our 24s are paid 2/hr less than the other medics, but our EMTs still get paid the same as the EMTs on the 12 hour shifts. But they have built in over time EVERY week, so they still make major bank over us 12 hour shifters. They also only work half as hard. While we're running our butts off all shift they're being "saved".

This is only if you're the normal EMT/Medic for the 24. If you happen to pick up a 24 because of a call out or vacation day, you get paid your normal pay. When they have a medic move off the 24 hour shift and it's open for a few weeks, it's a nice way to pad your check.
 
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Pretty much every EMS system I've ever worked at has been structured like this.

It's one of those "don't have to like it but have to put up with it" things.
 
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I remember hearing about services way back when that would pay time and a half for evening run time, and double time for time spent on a call after 2330hrs. In other words, base pay for the 16 or 24 hr shift, then bonuses for waking up and doing something.
 
I knew AMR Arlington did it, and just found out ETMC, at least in Waco, does also.

No, I don't like it. As a comparison, RN's get shift differentials for working nights and weekends, but we get our pay cut.
 
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Got Union?
 
mycrofft said:
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Got Union?
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I wish...I really do.

EMT's and Medics are being punished for working hours that others get rewarded for working.

Also, EMT's and Medics are on the clock, but not getting paid for their time.
 
We do it (and we have a union). The 24 hour car was dedicated to the outskirts of our area and had a full dorm with beds and kitchenette. The run volume out there is not nearly as high as it is in the main part of our response area, plus they almost never had to do IFTs. I don't think anyone thought it was unfair.
 
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Medic2409 said:
I wish...I really do.

EMT's and Medics are being punished for working hours that others get rewarded for working.

Also, EMT's and Medics are on the clock, but not getting paid for their time.
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How are they not getting paid?
 
Medic2409 said:
I knew AMR Arlington did it, and just found out ETMC, at least in Waco, does also.

No, I don't like it. As a comparison, RN's get shift differentials for working nights and weekends, but we get our pay cut.
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RNs also work their entire shift and isn't a profession glorified for "earning money sleeping"
 
Medic2409 said:
No, I don't like it. As a comparison, RN's get shift differentials for working nights and weekends, but we get our pay cut.
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Though luckily, your and my employer does do the $2 increase for weekend shifts.

Sasha said:
RNs also work their entire shift and isn't a profession glorified for "earning money sleeping"
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Let's be fair, agencies such as mine, you can be running the full shift, while at a rural hospital, nurses get grumpy if they have more than 1 patient taken to them in the span of a few hours.
 
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My thoughts are that if I'm on company time, I should be getting paid. Whether or not my job allows occasional (but not often) sleep breaks doesn't matter. I'm there, on the clock, doing what I'm supposed to be doing, and should be getting paid. The 24's I've worked don't leave much down time, at all.
 
THis brings up a whole new wrinkle of firefighter-paramedic services
 
How do you figure you're not getting paid for your entire shift because you are being paid less per hour?

You want the higher rate, take the 12s and work more days.

You don't like it, find another job. I'm sure someone else is more than willing to take your job and not whine that they get paid less per hour with built in overtime.

Working the 24s here is a privilege.
 
Linuss said:
Though luckily, your and my employer does do the $2 increase for weekend shifts.



Let's be fair, agencies such as mine, you can be running the full shift, while at a rural hospital, nurses get grumpy if they have more than 1 patient taken to them in the span of a few hours.
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I run my entire shift more often than not, and 12s turn in to 14s. Not a nurse not gonna compare us.
 
Sasha said:
How do you figure you're not getting paid for your entire shift because you are being paid less per hour?

You want the higher rate, take the 12s and work more days.

You don't like it, find another job. I'm sure someone else is more than willing to take your job and not whine that they get paid less per hour with built in overtime.

Working the 24s here is a privilege.
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Our 24 hr shifts have always been taken by people pretty high up on the seniority list. They apparently thought the lower pay per hr was worth it.
 
We get paid the same wage. Both are paid 75 hours every 2 weeks. The weeks we work more, the hours go into a bank. The weeks we work less, the hours come out of the bank. Every 2 months the 12 hour shift gets 2 leveling shifts off with pay. The 24s get 1 shift off with pay. The 12 s work 4 on 4 off the 24s work 24 on 72 off. We also get a night shift differential and weekend day differential that might add 20 bucks per pay.
 
It is what it is, and VERY much an industry standard. It involves a large amount of money so good luck changing it.
 
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It is what it is, and VERY much an industry standard. It involves a large amount of money so good luck changing it.
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This^^^.

We do the same thing. The 24s work so many more hours though that they come out ahead of the 12 hour guys in the end. Going to a 12hr shift from a 24hr is a cut in pay. my area doesn't have scheduled 24s so I don't care.

I prefer 12s though as I like going home every night(no matter how late we get off) and not always feeling like I'm recovering from a shift or getting ready for a shift.
 
Sorry to break it to ya, but that's how it is everywhere. Our 24s get 2/HR less but get weekly OT. We also. Get DT incentives for the whole shift pretty often.

Gotta love Weighted Avg Pay. Forgot what its called. Lol
 
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