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I was wondering if there was a short cut from medic to nurse, or you have to start from scratch if you wanted to go into nursing?



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Many places do have a "bridge program" from Paramedic to RN.
 
Dig around, and try states with patient to nurse ratios laws like Calif

As soon as those laws started in, nurse mills began popping, often with funding from hospitals.

Generally, no, it's going to be start over, except if you have transferable credits from your paramedic college course.
 
Wow 2000 hours of paramedic experience. Its like these programs think that paramedics have no educations whatsoever. I mean you only save one semester to two years of hard work. I guess its just that the fields are so different.
 
*Brown shakes his head sadly

Go do a BScN mate, seriously stop trying to get something for nothing
 
MrBrown said:
*Brown shakes his head sadly

Go do a BScN mate, seriously stop trying to get something for nothing
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Shoot, as long as nurses can bridge in to Paramedicine, I have no qualms with bridges in to nursing.
 
Linuss said:
Shoot, as long as nurses can bridge in to Paramedicine, I have no qualms with bridges in to nursing.
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Physicians in a lot of states can "bridge" (or test out of followed by a field internship) into paramedicine. Should paramedics be allowed to bridge into medicine?

In California, MDs (assuming DOs as well :D), RNs, and PAs can apply for paramedic license with a copy of current license, evidence of training that meets the paramedic curriculum (i.e. transcript, however they recommend also completing an EMT course, MICN course, or paramedic refresher) and a field internship of at least 40 "ALS" contacts. After completing those, California EMSA gives the provider an authorization to take NREMT paramedic exam, which if completed will result in licensing as a paramedic.
 
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JPINFV said:
Physicians in a lot of states can "bridge" (or test out of followed by a field internship) into paramedicine. Should paramedics be allowed to bridge into medicine?
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Only if said program includes two each non clinical and clinical years and said program must include an orange jumpsuit with 'DOCTOR' written on the back.
 
rhan101277 said:
Wow 2000 hours of paramedic experience. Its like these programs think that paramedics have no educations whatsoever. I mean you only save one semester to two years of hard work. I guess its just that the fields are so different.
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If you got your medic cert through a degree program, you'll already have most of the GenEd classes completed. If you went through a tech program, the quality can vary widely. Quite a few programs have in house A&P and pharm, watered down to maybe 2-3 weeks total.

Also check into hybrid programs that let you do your didactic portion online, and only clinicals in person.
 
While we're on the subject, does anyone know of any colleges that have 100% online didactic that would allow you to arrange your own clinicals locally, so that you can tailor the days to your schedule? I do shift work, so if I get held over at work or get denied leave to attend clinicals, I could be dropped from the program.
 
The difference is that the core skills education between a paramedic and RN are very similar already. The biggest differences are in the depth of the education.

As an RN I work with once told me. If an RN can get their RN with a 2 year degree, then a paramedic should be able to get their paramedic with a 2 year degree. If a 2 year RN can bridge to a 4 year RN, then so should a paramedic.

He has his BSN, has worked in the ER for years. His wife used to be a paramedic. He has also said that to him, there is little difference between a good paramedic and a good ER RN, aside from the setting we practice in. He is probably one of my favorite nurses to work with.
 
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JPINFV said:
Physicians in a lot of states can "bridge" (or test out of followed by a field internship) into paramedicine. Should paramedics be allowed to bridge into medicine?
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Physician and Paramedic are not comparable. RN and Paramedic are. All other things being equal, Paramedics and RNs are essentially the same level.


(Bring on the anger, Jimi!)
 
LOL I posted in the wrong thread ... however I don't think an RN and a Paramedic are comparable; the Paramedic has a very narrow focus which is to get the patient to a higher form of care; the RN must work with a wide range of healthcare providers and worry about what will happen two weeks from now when the patient is in ICU or has gone home. How many Ambo's think about or are even aware of that phase of what happens?
 
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https://www.excelsior.edu/Excelsior_College/School_Of_Nursing

Takes dedication, most start never to finish. Some states do not accept it, but actually seems more states are changing as Florida now will take it if you work elsewhere a couple of years.

Go to http://allnurses.com/distance-learning-nursing/ and read about other peoples experiences before paying money. Also be aware that there are multiple publishing companies that say they will get you from Paramedic to RN but they actually just charge a ton to put you into excelsior.
 
MrBrown said:
LOL I posted in the wrong thread ... however I don't think an RN and a Paramedic are comparable; the Paramedic has a very narrow focus which is to get the patient to a higher form of care; the RN must work with a wide range of healthcare providers and worry about what will happen two weeks from now when the patient is in ICU or has gone home. How many Ambo's think about or are even aware of that phase of what happens?
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Well if you say that then whats the difference between an ER nurse and a nurse that works in an ICU. The ER nurse has the same mentality as a paramedic. I think an ICU nurse just have a different avenue of training. Just as if a NICU nurse and a nurse that work in organ transplant.

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medic417 said:
https://www.excelsior.edu/Excelsior_College/School_Of_Nursing

Takes dedication, most start never to finish. Some states do not accept it, but actually seems more states are changing as Florida now will take it if you work elsewhere a couple of years.

Go to http://allnurses.com/distance-learning-nursing/ and read about other peoples experiences before paying money. Also be aware that there are multiple publishing companies that say they will get you from Paramedic to RN but they actually just charge a ton to put you into excelsior.
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Actually, that was the old Florida rule. As of this year, due to legal challenges, Florida rules are now this:

Important Update for our Florida Students and Prospective Students - May 12, 2010


Good news for our students and graduates in Florida. Governor Crist recently signed into law legislation (HB1337) that makes graduates from out-of-state accredited programs, including Excelsior College, eligible to be licensed as an RN by examination and endorsement.

Excelsior students who graduated on or after July 1, 2009 and all future graduates may now seek licensure by examination or endorsement whether or not they were LPNs prior to entering our associate degree in nursing program.

Individuals who graduate from our program prior to implementation of the new law on July 1, 2010 may still apply to the Florida Board of Nursing for licensure using the processes currently in place.

As always, if you have questions about licensure in Florida or elsewhere, please contact a member of the Excelsior College State Board Team at stateboards@excelsior.edu or 888-647-2388 extension 1315.

State Board Team
School of Nursing
 
jonpw52 said:
Well if you say that then whats the difference between an ER nurse and a nurse that works in an ICU. The ER nurse has the same mentality as a paramedic. I think an ICU nurse just have a different avenue of training. Just as if a NICU nurse and a nurse that work in organ transplant.
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I think thats a good point to make. Although a paramedic or emt only sees a patient for a short amount of time (maybe 20 minutes to an hour), an ER nurse is in the same boat. They are unlikely to see (most) patients for more than a few hours, and their treatment goal is the same, stabilize and move them to long term care or discharge.
 
akflightmedic said:
Actually, that was the old Florida rule. As of this year, due to legal challenges, Florida rules are now this:

Important Update for our Florida Students and Prospective Students - May 12, 2010


Good news for our students and graduates in Florida. Governor Crist recently signed into law legislation (HB1337) that makes graduates from out-of-state accredited programs, including Excelsior College, eligible to be licensed as an RN by examination and endorsement.

Excelsior students who graduated on or after July 1, 2009 and all future graduates may now seek licensure by examination or endorsement whether or not they were LPNs prior to entering our associate degree in nursing program.

Individuals who graduate from our program prior to implementation of the new law on July 1, 2010 may still apply to the Florida Board of Nursing for licensure using the processes currently in place.

As always, if you have questions about licensure in Florida or elsewhere, please contact a member of the Excelsior College State Board Team at stateboards@excelsior.edu or 888-647-2388 extension 1315.

State Board Team
School of Nursing
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Constant change. Seems more places are deciding if a person has the self discipline to complete the course, pass their hands on, and then pass NCLEX no reason not to let them be certified.
 
Ga. has a bridge program for medics that is 1 yr of 1 day/week and includes clinicals. I will be doing this and you can also get your BSN.

(I do not plan on leaving EMS for a long time but I see it as an opportunity to gain more education in the field.

For the record I see very little difference in an RN and a Medic.
 
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