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While true...there are two ways to combat this..first...common sense...if someone logs in and does not log out there has to be a reason i.e. they forgot or they have a wicked long PCR or multiple PCR's...it keeps track on when the person was there not just the number of hours...Also I believe...

As an all volunteer service we used to have a hand written log book, now we have a finger swipe and computer program...other departments have swipe cards like time clocks which go into a system and it tallies hours and also provides a way of scheduling... check out emsmanager.com...

We had 2700 EMS calls last year as an all volly agency and handled 99% of them. And we are just a little agency on Long Island...

Long Island & Upstate NY I understand all those who have paid services...but what about those who ONLY have volunteer services and respond from home..or while out and about.. I would like to hear what my fellow volunteers say..Personally I carry almost a mirror image of our BLS bag...

No...but if the DA does not have a complaining witness then it cannot be prosecuted. Kinda like if you have sex with someone consensually vs not. Now, that is not to say it is not a violation of protocol and there can and would be administrative penalties including revoking your card... Point...

Its only a criminal offense if there is a complainant to report it...

Now that's funny.....

I have heard stories from medics who have put Nitro paste on ambulance door handles and watched their partners pass out...

Really?? interesting, very small world...

Started CC class! Sorry I did not respond sooner..my wife just gave birth to our second daughter...that being said I started CC class Sunday...Very interesting...Masterson is funny as hell, but Hank will be teaching most of the class. I am excited about it... I understand getting on top of...

I will pass it along...I have heard the class is really good...

What Dept r u with?

At the Dennison building...Start Sunday

Haha yep...all department issued...

Not that I could treat anything beyond BLS protocols in this case...it sounds like it could be an unrelated heart issue, but the pupils are the windows to the brain...something that would effect both things? How about a spinal cord/brain stem injury..that would throw all systems out of...

Yep...I am aware of the ALS protocols...sounds ridiculous to me...but I am taking a CC class in the fall so I am sure I will find out why they do this..Yea never figured it would be a problem...I suppose since we do not do it as a profession and volunteers are the only option here it is a bit...

Interesting... This is an interesting topic...one the I am sure has been beat to death but here is an interesting spin...For those of us in an all volunteer system... we are never "off duty". While most of the time we do have one designated crew at the building for calls it is routine that a...

Thank you Thank you for all of your responses...It really helped... I also talked it out with the crew who was with me..and I feel better about it...My instincts would have been correct if we were first on scene..with regard to what and how to treat this patient... there was just not a...

UPDATE: Kid died on the Helo ride to the Hospital.... I guess bc even though we were the 1st ambulance on scene, care was already initiated by Department medic and CC...we/I never even got into a rythym on scene...we provided assistance where requested and did not have to transport in our rig...

Ok glad I am not alone....