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Sounds like it’s based on a lack of parenting and abuse of the 911 system as a babysitting service.

A spanking years ago would have prevented this.
 
Does make me wonder where all these crisis counselors that everyone claimed would help in these situations are.
 
And of course grandma comes out of the woodwork to say she’s appalled.

Look I don’t condone cussing at a 10 year old, but just remember -

1. Read between the lines, “it’s like this with you every week” - abuse of 911? Pain in the ***? Patient verbally/physically abusive? We ALL have our limit, sounds like he reached his..

2. Everyone has a story that we don’t know about. That guy going through a divorce? Just came off a bad run? Long term PTSD? As I said, we all have our limits, but life factors can and do lower those limits.

This was a bad day and an inappropriate response to a 10 year old, but there’s likely so much more to this story that we’ll never know because the shock journalism is done and the followup wont get clicks.
 
Shock journalism goes well with victim culture and not taking personal responsibility for your own actions. So much easier to blame everyone else instead of the real cause
 
Dr Spock and the ‘60s peace and love movements.
 
I used to work in that system (not at that agency). I agree there are probably reasons why the chief responded the way he did, but what he said wouldn't have been acceptable for any reason during the 5+ years I was there. He made a mistake, for which he's apparently facing the same consequences any of us would for speaking to a difficult patient that way. I'm pretty sure he'll be told he has to be better than that.
 
mgr22 said:
I used to work in that system (not at that agency). I agree there are probably reasons why the chief responded the way he did, but what he said wouldn't have been acceptable for any reason during the 5+ years I was there. He made a mistake, for which he's apparently facing the same consequences any of us would for speaking to a difficult patient that way. I'm pretty sure he'll be told he has to be better than that.
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I have no issues with him facing reasonable consequences. I'm more concerned with the family's role in this overall situation
 
This isn’t shock journalism. This dude was screaming obscenities at a 10 year old. What sort of back story would make that action ok? This guy made a mistake and is disciplined for it. I hope the same would happen everywhere.
 
Tigger said:
This isn’t shock journalism. This dude was screaming obscenities at a 10 year old. What sort of back story would make that action ok? This guy made a mistake and is disciplined for it. I hope the same would happen everywhere.
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Thanks for proving my point about dealing with the headline and ignoring the underlying issue.

Nobody said his actions were justified or that he shouldn't face consequences.
 
Tigger said:
This isn’t shock journalism. This dude was screaming obscenities at a 10 year old. What sort of back story would make that action ok? This guy made a mistake and is disciplined for it. I hope the same would happen everywhere.
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I’m not saying this is the case, because there’s not enough info to say, but are you honestly saying you’ve NEVER lost your cool with an unruly frequent flier??
 
FiremanMike said:
I’m not saying this is the case, because there’s not enough info to say, but are you honestly saying you’ve NEVER lost your cool with an unruly frequent flier??
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Not a ten year old one, no.

I’ve lost my cool a time or two, though nothing like this. And if it was on video and shown to my Chief, I’d expect to be disciplined.
 
Tigger said:
Not a ten year old one, no.

I’ve lost my cool a time or two, though nothing like this. And if it was on video and shown to my Chief, I’d expect to be disciplined.
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Once again: you missed the causative factor: Utter lack of parenting.
 
CCCSD said:
Once again: you missed the causative factor: Utter lack of parenting.
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There is no causative factor. It is not acceptable to explode at patients, especially pediatrics. You don’t like how patients talk to you? Deal with it in the truck, not to the patients.

This is an asinine conversation.

Talk about assumptions here. Do you know the backstory? Are you sure there are even parents involved? Of course not. Take your holier than thou “tough parenting” attitude elsewhere.

Why I bother to have these discussions with several people who are long out of treating patients is beyond me. Good riddance from our profession. Times have changed whether you like it or not.
 
Tigger said:
There is no causative factor. It is not acceptable to explode at patients, especially pediatrics. You don’t like how patients talk to you? Deal with it in the truck, not to the patients.

This is an asinine conversation.

Talk about assumptions here. Do you know the backstory? Are you sure there are even parents involved? Of course not. Take your holier than thou “tough parenting” attitude elsewhere.

Why I bother to have these discussions with several people who are long out of treating patients is beyond me. Good riddance from our profession. Times have changed whether you like it or not.
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Did I say anything about supporting the FF going off? Nope. But you ASSUMED I did, because I called the root of the issue correctly. You just jumped to the far left and decided we are all wrong. Way to be lecturing us on values and opinions.

I’m still treating patients. I’m still teaching my Baby Docs. Now it’s a “pediatric” pt. ( playing the little kid afraid of the big mean FF) Assuming much? Do you know the facts on this pts life status? Medical/Psych issues? Education? Size? Attitude in life? Home life? Prior contacts? Parenting? Abuse of the system?

Your holier than though attitude shows how much you don’t know, and how disconnected from reality you are. Why I bother with responding to YOU, is you need checking from time to time.
 
Tigger said:
Talk about assumptions here. Do you know the backstory? Are you sure there are even parents involved? Of course not. Take your holier than thou “tough parenting” attitude elsewhere.
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Oh look, a quote directly from the article posted:
The concerned grandmother said her daughter called the police on her granddaughter after she had taken away the child’s phone, causing her to become emotionally distressed.

She added that the family has called first responders in the past to deal with the child, but the personnel have always been understanding with her granddaughter.
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CCCSD said:
Did I say anything about supporting the FF going off? Nope. But you ASSUMED I did, because I called the root of the issue correctly. You just jumped to the far left and decided we are all wrong. Way to be lecturing us on values and opinions.

I’m still treating patients. I’m still teaching my Baby Docs. Now it’s a “pediatric” pt. ( playing the little kid afraid of the big mean FF) Assuming much? Do you know the facts on this pts life status? Medical/Psych issues? Education? Size? Attitude in life? Home life? Prior contacts? Parenting? Abuse of the system?

Your holier than though attitude shows how much you don’t know, and how disconnected from reality you are. Why I bother with responding to YOU, is you need checking from time to time.
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I cannot imagine where on earth allows you to teach medical providers or treat patients. I shudder at thought, truly. To my knowledge you have never once provided a single iota of clinical knowledge to this forum.

I’m out.
 
Tigger said:
I cannot imagine where on earth allows you to teach medical providers or treat patients. I shudder at thought, truly. To my knowledge you have never once provided a single iota of clinical knowledge to this forum.

I’m out.
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I’m probably better than you in every scope. At least that’s what my awards and promotions say…

Bye Felicia. Nice flounce off.
 
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