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WOW. thats all i can say cause im in a complete state of shock here
 

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I got to the Star of Life 2 minutes in. Non firebased EMS also has it.
 

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It seems that the point that came up most often in the video is response time... Private EMS is unable to respond as quickly as Fire Departments? They have better vehicles? Last I checked (around here at least) We drive pretty much the same thing.
 

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I don't get it. What are they trying to say?:unsure:
 

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Why do they think that? What is causing them to come to that comclusion?
I don't see a difference in the two, but I am new to the field. I am trying to understand this world of ems. Please explain.
 

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Yess, now where is this Fire based EMS you say?
 

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EMS should be a third service.
 

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NY its run by the FD but it is essentially a third service. EMTs and Medics have nothing to do with firefighting at least.
 

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oh, they are wanting to put EMS and fire together, is that what they are saying?

Right. that is what Fire Based EMS is, firefighters being EMS providers as well.
 

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Right. that is what Fire Based EMS is, firefighters being EMS providers as well.

It seems that they are against private amublance services. Why? They are doing the same EMS stuff, arn't they?
 

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It seems that they are against private amublance services. Why? They are doing the same EMS stuff, arn't they?

$$$ money $$$

There are less than hald the fire calls there used to be. Fire prevention has been very successful.
Fewer calls means politicians may want to reduce fire dept jobs. But they can reverse that if they do EMS. Notice how they don't want FDs merging with Police because doing 2 jobs would make them worse at both all of a sudden.
 
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There are less than hald the fire calls there used to be. Fire prevention has been very successful.
Fewer calls means politicians may want to reduce fire dept jobs. But they can reverse that if they do EMS. Notice how they don't want FDs merging with Police because doing 2 jobs would make them worse at both all of a sudden.

hmm, that makes sense. I can't imagine FD and PD put together. Our city has the Fire and EMS together.
When I did my ride times, I had to race the firemen to the patient, if I wanted to be able to do anything on that call. :D
Thank you for explaining all that to me. :)
 

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hmm, that makes sense. I can't imagine FD and PD put together. Our city has the Fire and EMS together.
When I did my ride times, I had to race the firemen to the patient, if I wanted to be able to do anything on that call. :D
Thank you for explaining all that to me. :)

PSOs (Public Saftey Officers) are more common now. They combine PD and FD into a single service.
 

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hmm, that makes sense. I can't imagine FD and PD put together. Our city has the Fire and EMS together.
When I did my ride times, I had to race the firemen to the patient, if I wanted to be able to do anything on that call. :D
Thank you for explaining all that to me. :)
In many Michigan communities it is common to have Public Safety Officers who are trained as Police Officers/Fire Fighters/EMT-Basic.
 

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In many Michigan communities it is common to have Public Safety Officers who are trained as Police Officers/Fire Fighters/EMT-Basic.

Some are transitioning to have them as medics. Oak Park (if your familiar with the area) has a few medics now.
 

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It seems that the point that came up most often in the video is response time... Private EMS is unable to respond as quickly as Fire Departments?

Hmmm, that's why, most of the time, I'm on scene before fire....
 

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