Paramedics, nurses and pharmacists will be able to train as doctors in just three years under post-Brexit plans to tackle NHS staffing crisis

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Interesting.
 
Also, great day to post this. Happy Brexit day to our friends across the Atlantic.
 
Does the UK use midlevel providers in much number?
 
Interesting considering the acceptance rate after secondary school (their HS) is less than 10%. They could just open more spots to their medical school.
 
Tigger said:
Does the UK use midlevel providers in much number?
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I wonder if the UK have an equivalent to NP's and PA's that we have in America
 
Kavsuvb said:
I wonder if the UK have an equivalent to NP's and PA's that we have in America
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They have physician associates.
Same same but different.

Physician associate

Entry requirements You’ll usually need a bioscience-related first degree to get onto one of the training programmes available. Undergraduate integrated Master of Physician Associate Studies programmes are now available and these courses require A-levels or equivalent for entry. Alternatively, if...
www.healthcareers.nhs.uk www.healthcareers.nhs.uk
 
SandpitMedic said:
They have physician associates.
Same same but different.

Physician associate

Entry requirements You’ll usually need a bioscience-related first degree to get onto one of the training programmes available. Undergraduate integrated Master of Physician Associate Studies programmes are now available and these courses require A-levels or equivalent for entry. Alternatively, if...
www.healthcareers.nhs.uk www.healthcareers.nhs.uk
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And the question is, the UK Physician Associate similar to PA's and NP's in America or are they different.
 
I don't know factually what they can and cannot do, but I've talked to a few nurses from the UK and it sounds like the role and scope of PAs and APNs in the UK is much more limited than in the US.
 
I have also heard they have a much narrower scope.
 
I'm an advanced paramedic working in out-of-hours GP (doctors) community services. I have exactly the same scope of practice as a doctor within my role with one exception - i am unable to section a patient under the mental health act.
Otherwise the drugs I can supply, clinical pathways into hospitals and community specialists and investigations I can order are the same.
Its just I get half the pay.
I am unsure how this stacks up against the US AP role as Im unfamiliar with it.
 
Interesting, so what is a PA equivalent in the UK @Pond Life ?

For reference this what a US PA is:
www.aapa.org

What is a PA?

What is a PA (physician associate/physician assistant)? PAs are licensed clinicians who practice medicine in every specialty and setting.
www.aapa.org www.aapa.org
 
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