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Old 06-09-2011, 09:16 PM   #1
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CAOX4 vs AxOx4


can someone please explain the difference between the two?? and the proper way to use them in paperwork..this is probably a really stupid question but i'm confused :/

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Old 06-09-2011, 09:21 PM   #2
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Personal preference. It doesn't matter.
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:32 PM   #3
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Keep things simple, use AVPU and GCS

Brown has no seen anywhere outside the US that uses A&O or C&O

Some used to write "C+O" here until specifically instructed not to, because it is not a concept used by medical or nursing staff nor it is a commonly used abbreviation within the Ambulance Service so somebody reading it may have no idea what it means.
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can someone please explain the difference between the two?? and the proper way to use them in paperwork..this is probably a really stupid question but i'm confused :/

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Conscious, Alert and Oriented x4

Alert and Oriented x4


Honestly, if they are alert and oriented, the conscious part is implied. Other than that, it's personal preference.
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can someone please explain the ... proper way to use them in paperwork..
Ask your supervisor/FTO how they want you to complete the paperwork. Every department/agency/company may be different.
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Keep things simple, use AVPU and GCS

Brown has no seen anywhere outside the US that uses A&O or C&O

Some used to write "C+O" here until specifically instructed not to, because it is not a concept used by medical or nursing staff nor it is a commonly used abbreviation within the Ambulance Service so somebody reading it may have no idea what it means.
Definitely better to keep it to GCS primarily. A patient who is GCS 15 is oriented. If they are GCS 14 and it is because I've put their verbal component down to 4 then I will usually note that they are oriented to whichever of person, place, time, and event (if any).
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Definitely better to keep it to GCS primarily. A patient who is GCS 15 is oriented. If they are GCS 14 and it is because I've put their verbal component down to 4 then I will usually note that they are oriented to whichever of person, place, time, and event (if any).
Good one. And I would add: If you write anything other than GCS=15, note what ones are lacking. For example, in my report I would write:

Neuro: GCS=10 (E=3, V=3, M=4).
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Good one. And I would add: If you write anything other than GCS=15, note what ones are lacking. For example, in my report I would write:

Neuro: GCS=10 (E=3, V=3, M=4).
Just a tip, if the patient is intubated, write GCS: 10T if he is alert and follows commands, and specify if his mental status is off from there.
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Just a tip, if the patient is intubated, write GCS: 10T if he is alert and follows commands, and specify if his mental status is off from there.
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Just a tip, if the patient is intubated, write GCS: 10T if he is alert and follows commands, and specify if his mental status is off from there.
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