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Old 05-31-2010, 02:13 AM   #1
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I hate my partner


I only did this to become a PA. It's just for a year, maybe less if I become a CNA or LVN, but as I slog through each day, spending more energy fending off frustration than just thinking about medical issues, it feels like a prison sentence.

And it really occurred to me when I was talking to my patient in the ER while we waited to be admitted. As I learned more about my patient's medical history, I felt for once like an EMT. But instead of talking about medicine with my partner, I have to put up with his trying to be cool and loud hip hop music between calls. How can one be cool walking the patient to the dialysis center? (I can't describe it!)

How do I describe the priorities of a 20-year-old? It isn't to be a better EMT: why would I need to get better if I'm already the BEST? It isn't to "expedite" or be efficient: that'll detract from my swagger! It isn't to talk about medicine: that'll only show that I don't know anything! It isn't to work cooperatively, as a single unit, to achieve impeccable patient care and professionalism: I'm better than you and I'll show it by ordering you around and telling you to do the obvious in front of my peers, and I'll let you fail because it makes me look better AND feel superior!


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Old 05-31-2010, 02:33 AM   #2
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Is your partner a medic or another EMT?


You won't always find people in our field who care about the medicine... infact the people you see here on the forum who actually care about EMS are a minority in our field. Not much you can do to change their view of this only being a paycheck, dialysis transport or not.


I'm content with my partner. I'm 21 and a medic, he's 20 and halfway through medic school. Granted he'd rather drive and leave the actual patient care to me, I don't mind it much since I still need the experience, but I'm slowly breaking him in to my style of how I'd like a partner (be it an EMT or another medic), we actually have a bit in common and get well decent enough.



If you find that partner that you get along with though, it's great, and makes the shifts all that much better. Now to get a hot female EMT partner who needs help with.. um... anything really... like chest lead placement. Yeah... that's it...

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Old 05-31-2010, 02:55 AM   #3
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Is your partner a medic or another EMT?

You won't always find people in our field who care about the medicine... infact the people you see here on the forum who actually care about EMS are a minority in our field. Not much you can do to change their view of this only being a paycheck, dialysis transport or not.

I'm content with my partner. I'm 21 and a medic, he's 20 and halfway through medic school. Granted he'd rather drive and leave the actual patient care to me, I don't mind it much since I still need the experience, but I'm slowly breaking him in to my style of how I'd like a partner (be it an EMT or another medic), we actually have a bit in common and get well decent enough.

If you find that partner that you get along with though, it's great, and makes the shifts all that much better. Now to get a hot female EMT partner who needs help with.. um... anything really... like chest lead placement. Yeah... that's it...
He's an EMT also.

I think you're right. For an entry-level job, the EMT profession casts a wide net and takes both the eager and motivated as well as the apathetic. And the more you move up, becoming specialized, say as a nurse, PA, or doctor, then you'll increasingly find similar minds.

I don't expect (or even want) my partner to talk about medicine all the time, because that's not even the issue for me. It's that seeming dictate to be cool that overrides courtesy and professionalism, cooperation and teamwork.

I know what it is (after reading the "rude partners" thread): ego. It's just ego. Men seem to have more of it than women. It's how people choose to deal with their insecurities: either we mask it with behavior (rudeness, coolness, superiority) that immunizes us from the unpredictability of relationships, or we address it with assurance by working together to form a solid ground we all can stand on. Some (most?) people just aren't willing to give up the land they're standing on to find common purpose.

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Old 05-31-2010, 03:14 AM   #4
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Not gonna lie, but you sound like a hater... I pretty much read this:

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I hate my partner. He's dumb, tries to act cool, and doesn't care about medicine because he listens to hip hop in between calls.
I don't think you can differentiate between acting and being yourself, and I would put money that he doesn't talk to you about medicine because you're being hard core.

Maybe you can elaborate more on why your partner is terrible, but at this point, you took one aspect of him that's really a preference, and then you gave him a bunch of negative qualities/characteristics because of that one aspect making it sound like he had multiple bad qualities/characteristics.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:33 AM   #5
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Yeah there are quite a few of those EMT's (ones that WDA described) at my Current job, i feel your pain, burned out emt's who refuse (or are too lazy) to further their education. as well as automatically thinking they are Superior since they have worked longer in the field. I had one partner tell me "why are you gonna go to Medic school?, your only gonna make a few dollars more working as a Medic"

its that mentally of not wanting to further the knowledge thats really dangerous in our field.

It seems like all the Smart EMT's are going to Paramedic,PA,Nursing, Med school, etc. to further their education

P.s: One of my best partners was a hot chick EMT, who was pretty darn intelligent and also a tele tech, and would constantly teach me new things. I really miss working with her!!! (she is also working on going to PA school)


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Old 05-31-2010, 03:39 AM   #6
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How do we on the forum know that he doesn't want to learn more? All we got on him right now is he listens to hip hop in between calls and this supposedly means: he doesn't want to learn more, he doesn't like medicine, he doesn't care, he thinks he is the best, etc... I want to hear more on why he's so bad before we start making more conclusions. What has he done that has given you this message?

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Old 05-31-2010, 03:47 AM   #7
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How do we on the forum know that he doesn't want to learn more? All we got on him right now is he listens to hip hop in between calls and this supposedly means: he doesn't want to learn more, he doesn't like medicine, he doesn't care, he thinks he is the best, etc... I want to hear more on why he's so bad before we start making more conclusions. What has he done that has given you this message?
im not saying that this partner is like that, but i have partners in my company that i have worked with that are like the OP and I have described. i should have made that more clear i apologize
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:12 AM   #8
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Partnership is about Chemistry

That's all there is to it and that takes a little time to figure out with each person. You may start trusting someone right off the bat only to find you were mistaken.

Some partners you just can't get into sync with. Period. If he's working with someone else, all the stuff that jumps down your throat may not even surface. It usually takes a period of adjustment until you figure out what you can live with and what you WON'T, and the bottom line is patient care.

You have the right to impose upon your partner to provide quality patient care. You DO have be clear about whose standards you are BOTH committing to follow.

Beyond the working environment, you limit the psychic energy you invest in your partner to what feels comfortable to you and no more. You have control over where your emotional energy goes as well.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:33 AM   #9
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DINGDINGDINGDINGDING..Music Medic Wins The Trophy!

Heck yeah EMT's tend to go for higher certifications and degrees! Better pay, less physical stress, better benefits, more job security if you follow the wider range of opportunities available. Also, tends (not guarantees) to have more maturity than entry level technical position.

Relax a little more, don't be driven to learn and do all the time. Put that drive into studying and maybe just reading about what you are interested in. It will mkae you easier to be around too.

PS: Clashes of personal styles can get to be like a pebble in your shoe. Talk to your boss about it.
PPS: Maybe you drew this one from the pile because you are the new person?
PPPS: Maybe your co-worker is trying to impress you in a sort of third grade manner?
PPPPS: From your comment about male versus female ego, I take it you are a female and have not worked for females much. Wait til you run into some of the females egos in female dominated areas like nursing. Or the chairperson's office of Hewlett Packard, or EBay. A guy will swagger and act all macho, a woman will have someone else cut you off at the knees. (Fairer sex, indeed!)).
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:57 AM   #10
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HIP HOP DOESN'T HELP, not the plainly stupid hip hop that talks relentlessly about sex, texting with a cell phone, becoming a billionaire, or is preoccupied pre-pubescently with parts of the female human anatomy. Call me old-fashioned.

It's not that he doesn't talk medicine. That was just the thing that made me realize...

That I spend an inordinate amount of time bearing his rudeness and the little things he does that tells me he doesn't care about working as a team or coming to an understanding with me, instead of spending that time BEING AN EMT.

Yes, it's his personality, and mine. But when we're working, albeit stuck to each other for 8-12 hours each day, I expect we can connect AT LEAST as EMTs, professionally, covering each other's behind, communicating, etc. Hallmarks of a team. There isn't any of that.

His job isn't a job for him. For him, it seems, there's no difference between on-time and off-time. There is no standard to follow, no courtesy to give; he says so himself: he will not say please, or thank you. He will not ask, request; he'll order, instruct. The standard is himself. He's an EMT for himself.

I can't police courtesy, demand kindness. That's like yelling in a movie theatre for people to be quiet. So I have to deal with it, and it can get to be too much to be wary everyday that he's going to let go of the gurney to sanitize his hands and not tell me, and then blame me for rushing. (????)

I don't know if you've ever met anyone like that. Maybe that's to be expected working for a third-rate ambulance company that gives no job training, doesn't expect you to change sheets with every patient, adjusts your hours on your timecards come payday, and has designated drivers because every attendant has DL problems.
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