Angina Pectoris vs Myocardial Infarction

[JPINFV]

Originally Posted by White Fang

we as emt-b we do not diagnose

You're wrong. Read page one of this thread to find out why. On your way through, please note the numerous people who answered the original poster's question regarding MIs and angina.

[Lifeguards For Life]

Originally Posted by White Fang

The only thing I have to say its that the majority of you need to go back to school and take a course of literature comprehension and listening skills you ripped a part this fellow for just a simple question.......

whats the difference between Angina Pectoris vs Myocardial Infarction... is a simple question on the different sings and symptoms between each other.....

we as emt-b we do not diagnose and emt-p could tell by reading the result on the way to the hospital but you can not tell the difference by the naked eye per say you rely on your S.A.M.P.L.E. History so you can suspect but again our job is to treat not to diagnose the problem.... A few said you can take some classes like A.C.L.S etc.... I am still a student, ill ask, we have a few instructors that are EMT-P and EMT-I but I dought you can just tell if the Patient doesnt tell you specifics.
by the way i read the chapter Cardiac Emergencies before i posted this, it only tells what and why was caused and they do teach us the difference between one and another!!!

Again I think most of you need to READ the question, AND JUST ANSWER THE F**** QUESTION

If you only treat and do not diagnose, then you are treating with no idea why. if you don't diagnose before you treat, then you are just randomly performing interventions?

[Seaglass]

The responders that scare me aren't the ones that come to places like this and ask questions. The ones that scare me are the ones that just assume they know it once they graduate and aren't curious enough to look into what they don't know.

Originally Posted by daedalus

No, the differences between angina and MI are not taught to United States EMT students. Sad, huh?

My class covered it pretty extensively, but I've run into some that didn't. I even recently encountered a graduating first responder class in a scenario where everyone though my circumferential burn around the wrist was a low-priority transport, and the soot around my mouth was just a distraction from the real injury. The lack of education some emergency workers has is really quite frightening.

OP: As a student, you're likely to eventually run into topics in the field that just weren't covered in your class, or that were covered too briefly to be of any use. If you had a good textbook, crack it open occasionally and review. If you didn't or want more detail, places like this are great.

[RescueYou]

Originally Posted by daedalus

Hi Melcin,

No, the differences between angina and MI are not taught to United States EMT students. Sad, huh?

Oh yes it is! I most definitely learned it.

But as others have mentioned, you are not to diagnose. AMI = heart attack. Easy enough.

[reaper]

Soon to be medics, better start learning to diagnose!

[RescueYou]

Originally Posted by reaper

Soon to be medics, better start learning to diagnose!

Yeah...I'm nervous about that. It just bothers me to know I'll start diagnosing soon.

[JBP]

This was taught in my EMT calss. (the difference that is) The pain of an AMI/MCI is porologed and does not go away with rest. Pain from an Angina subsides with rest (and of coruse nitro)

[LondonMedic]

Originally Posted by JBP

This was taught in my EMT calss. (the difference that is) The pain of an AMI/MCI is porologed and does not go away with rest. Pain from an Angina subsides with rest (and of coruse nitro)

In my experience and knowledge, pain from MI can subside and often does respond to GTN, unstable angina can persist despite rest and the effect of GTN isn't always that dramatic.