Zero Tolerance of Rudeness/Attacks/Inflammatory Posts

[Airwaygoddess]

I for one have,have not posted for a very long time for this very reason.
I believe that we are all to be respectful and be professional in our actions, words and deeds. people also need to to remember that we have members here that are younger and that we as PROFESSIONALS need to set the example and stand by it. The community leaders have my blessing!

*~* Airwaygoddess*~*

[wolfwyndd]

Originally Posted by MMiz

Over the past few months, and likely for much longer, members have contacted me and said that they're not posting out of fear of the EMTLife lynch mob that has taken over almost every thread in the community. [snip]

Yah!! I'm glad to see that someone else, particularly a moderator, pretty much feels the same way I do. I may actually have to start coming back here because for the longest time, I HAVEN'T posted for that very reason. There are a select few members who seem to think that they know everything that anyone needs to know and will be more then happy to tell everyone all they need to know and frequently then belittle someone because they didn't know that to begin with.

[daedalus]

That this forum and some of its staff (read: Chimpie) want this place to be a censored dictatorship where no real information exchange or debate can take place. We have now lost many valuable members, some of whom I have learned a lot from and so have many of you.

So look forward to no more good information, now you all can pat yourselfs on the back for putting that new siren in your ford or asking which trauma bag should you buy for personal use.

I was hear to learn about the medicine. There is no medicine here.

[medic417]

Originally Posted by daedalus

That this forum and some of its staff (read: Chimpie) want this place to be a censored dictatorship where no real information exchange or debate can take place. We have now lost many valuable members, some of whom I have learned a lot from and so have many of you.

So look forward to no more good information, now you all can pat yourselfs on the back for putting that new siren in your ford or asking which trauma bag should you buy for personal use.

I was hear to learn about the medicine. There is no medicine here.

It really has gone down hill on educational content. Usually in the fights we had some of the best educational material provided to back their view. I think most are to scared to post their opinions for fear of getting banned. It is sad really.

[rescue99]

Originally Posted by medic417

It really has gone down hill on educational content. Usually in the fights we had some of the best educational material provided to back their view. I think most are to scared to post their opinions for fear of getting banned. It is sad really.

Don't miss the crude outbursts one bit. "Education" does not benefit from them. What is sad is too many think that unless a post is nasty, no one is listening.

[Summit]

I can say that I've gained gobs of knowledge here when the debates rage and the intelligent, the educated, and the experienced contributors post up long posts detailing the evidence and the experience behind their points. And they don't always agree! That lead to the most informative threads of all!

There will always be newbies asking inane questions. Good self moderation as well as moderator action can help these newbies integrate into the community with little disruption to the community and themselves. Turnover is inherent to EMS at the moment, though we would like that to change. Shouldn't that change be on the forum too?

Or do the "community leaders" want a forum that consists mainly of people who stick around for a few weeks and move on.

This place has run the gamut in my time here. It's gone from a sleepy and touchy feely place to an extremely informative and lively community and is now headed towards stagnant mediocrity and blandness all in the name of civility.

There will always be newbies who get their feelings scuffed. There will always be newbies who come here with an attitude that they are not willing to change. YOU CANNOT ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE and keep the place interesting. So decide. What is better? A padded rubber room where we ban people for not saying please and thank you? Nothing but "I just enrolled in an EMT class. Should I buy a $300 stethascope and $50 diamond studded trauma shears?" style threads?

Will that sustain a good community atmosphere and generate the content to keep people coming back?

What is more worrysome?
People afraid to disagree with others? <-What the intelligent and veteran content creators are feeling
Or people afraid that someone might disagree with them? <-What the mods worry about

The primacy of the latter concern will ensure that good content stays away and the only new members are those new to EMS who will only stay a few months until they realize that there is nothing deeper here than the threads they posted upon arrival.

[Chimpie]

Originally Posted by daedalus

That this forum and some of its staff (read: Chimpie) want this place to be a censored dictatorship where no real information exchange or debate can take place. We have now lost many valuable members, some of whom I have learned a lot from and so have many of you.

So look forward to no more good information, now you all can pat yourselfs on the back for putting that new siren in your ford or asking which trauma bag should you buy for personal use.

I was hear to learn about the medicine. There is no medicine here.

(This was actually sent via PM to daedalus, but since I seem to be the target of a few members' complaints, I'll post it here as well.)

Completely inaccurate. We strive for information exchange and debate. It's the only way to improve EMS.

However, taking the recent asthma thread for example, the thread was taken off topic, actually, way off topic after just a few posts. This is the ongoing problem with the forum.

If a thread can stay on topic and the posts follow the rules then the CL team, myself included, pretty much stay out of it.

Going back to the asthma thread, if members want to debate what should be allowed by BLS providers, then start a thread discussing that. Don't jump in and hijack a thread asking what they can or can't do.

Originally Posted by medic417

It really has gone down hill on educational content. Usually in the fights we had some of the best educational material provided to back their view. I think most are to scared to post their opinions for fear of getting banned. It is sad really.

I concur with this. It's a shame we have to take action when it gets rude or name calling begins.

Originally Posted by Summit

I can say that I've gained gobs of knowledge here when the debates rage and the intelligent, the educated, and the experienced contributors post up long posts detailing the evidence and the experience behind their points. And they don't always agree! That lead to the most informative threads of all!

I agree.

There will always be newbies asking inane questions. Good self moderation as well as moderator action can help these newbies integrate into the community with little disruption to the community and themselves. Turnover is inherent to EMS at the moment, though we would like that to change. Shouldn't that change be on the forum too?

Or do the "community leaders" want a forum that consists mainly of people who stick around for a few weeks and move on.

EMTLife was created so that those in EMS have an open forum for discussions. We hope our members stay with us for a long time. We hope our EMS veterans find this as a place to consult and console each other, as well as help those new to the field.

This place has run the gamut in my time here. It's gone from a sleepy and touchy feely place to an extremely informative and lively community and is now headed towards stagnant mediocrity and blandness all in the name of civility.

There will always be newbies who get their feelings scuffed. There will always be newbies who come here with an attitude that they are not willing to change. YOU CANNOT ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE and keep the place interesting. So decide. What is better? A padded rubber room where we ban people for not saying please and thank you? Nothing but "I just enrolled in an EMT class. Should I buy a $300 stethascope and $50 diamond studded trauma shears?" style threads?

Will that sustain a good community atmosphere and generate the content to keep people coming back?

What is more worrysome?
People afraid to disagree with others? <-What the intelligent and veteran content creators are feeling
Or people afraid that someone might disagree with them? <-What the mods worry about

The primacy of the latter concern will ensure that good content stays away and the only new members are those new to EMS who will only stay a few months until they realize that there is nothing deeper here than the threads they posted upon arrival.

Administrating a forum comes with responsibilities. We have to protect our members, our CL Team, and the forum owner. While we hope the decisions we make are understood by everyone, we don't take it personally when people disagree with us. We have a job to do and we will do it to the best of our efforts.