EMS degree to Medical School

[JPINFV]

Originally Posted by WTEngel

I misunderstood (though he was making a DO dig at you). I didn't realize he was talking about the test prep material at first. I guess that's what I get for trying to play with you two before I am ready..

Are you taking COMLEX and USMLE back to back, or do you have some time between the two?

I'm actually surprised no one has made a "haha" comment regarding First Aid.

Personally, I'm probably going to take USMLE and COMLEX Step/Level 2 back to back, but it depends on the schedule. Most people I know took Step 1 back to back because why waste time relearning the material again later? The only people who didn't were the people who had their vacation month first, and took a few extra weeks to prepare for USMLE. The only thing my school cares about is that we take COMLEX Level 1 prior to starting 3rd year, even if the first block is the vacation block.

[JPINFV]

Originally Posted by Veneficus

While he only had the benefit of gross examination, Dr. A.T. Still's observation of structure implying function holds true to this day at every level of pathophysiology as well as physiology.

Yea, but at the same time there was an astonishingly high amount of BS. While BS coming out of medicine in the late 1800s is hardly unique to osteopathy, the fact that we continue some of the same BS (i.e. any indirect techniques, cranial, and a few others) doesn't help out US osteopathic medicine.

[Veneficus]

Originally Posted by JPINFV

Yea, but at the same time there was an astonishingly high amount of BS. While BS coming out of medicine in the late 1800s is hardly unique to osteopathy, the fact that we continue some of the same BS (i.e. any indirect techniques, cranial, and a few others) doesn't help out US osteopathic medicine.

Nobody is perfect.

Medicine is a dying art, I am one of the few holdouts

[WTEngel]

Originally Posted by Veneficus

I do not dig on DOs.

They are for all intents and purposes, doctors.

The only US school I considered going to was a DO school (LECOM)

While he only had the benefit of gross examination, Dr. A.T. Still's observation of structure implying function holds true to this day at every level of pathophysiology as well as physiology.

I am fully aware of how DOs make great physicians like MDs do. If I came off inferring that DOs are in any way inferior, I apologize, and I hope it was only because of certain aspects of communication being lost over the internet.

The suggestion I made about you digging on DOs would have been in a "good natured, ribbing" sort of manner. Nothing serious at all.

At this point I would be happy for an MD or a DO (foreign or domestic) to help me remove my foot from my mouth...lol

[WTEngel]

Originally Posted by JPINFV

I'm actually surprised no one has made a "haha" comment regarding First Aid.

Personally, I'm probably going to take USMLE and COMLEX Step/Level 2 back to back, but it depends on the schedule. Most people I know took Step 1 back to back because why waste time relearning the material again later? The only people who didn't were the people who had their vacation month first, and took a few extra weeks to prepare for USMLE. The only thing my school cares about is that we take COMLEX Level 1 prior to starting 3rd year, even if the first block is the vacation block.

So the tests are pretty comparable in terms of rigor? Do most people use the same study/prep material for both (minus any OMM material.)

I understand that students are expected to have picked up the same amount and type of material (for the most part) at the point which they take each step or level respectively, but I was not sure how the tests compared on format or manner in which the material is tested...

Sorry for all the questions...but as a guy who hopes to be where you are one day, I am just really curious.

[JPINFV]

Originally Posted by Veneficus

Nobody is perfect.

Medicine is a dying art, I am one of the few holdouts

That wasn't meant to be a dig at Dr. Still. The moral/ethical judgement surrounding a treatment can only be made based on the background of the time period it was used, and medicine today compared to 130 years ago bears no resemblance. My problem is not Dr. Still, but the old guard running the American Osteopathic Association (AOA) today who think that perserving the rapidly decreasing "difference" (more allopathic schools are becoming "hollistic (even though I think it's more the individual regardless the letters) and less osteopathic physicians are using OMT) between MDs and DOs is more important than training and empowering physicians.

It's getting dangerously close to where the difference between MDs and DOs is present because those who profit the most from a difference are fighting to keep it, not because any difference actually exists. That is a problem.

[Veneficus]

Originally Posted by JPINFV

because those who profit the most from a difference are fighting to keep it, not because any difference actually exists. That is a problem.

Sounds like medicine to me

[msaver]

This has been a great help everyone. I greatly appreciate it! Hopefully all works out haha

[zmedic]

I disagree with the poster who said stats is worthless. Probably the most useful class I took in college in terms of medical school. You spend a lot of time reading medical research.

[JPINFV]

Originally Posted by zmedic

I disagree with the poster who said stats is worthless. Probably the most useful class I took in college in terms of medical school. You spend a lot of time reading medical research.

Qualify worthless? Worthless in terms of practicing as a physician or worthless in terms of the admissions game? O Chem was drastically important for the admissions game... not so much for actually practicing medicine.