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Melbourne MICA · 11-04-2009, 05:04 AM

Had a pt once who arrested after an inferior infarct - bradyed out to VF in front of me. Had the pads already so he got zapped 200J>>>>refractory period then back into VF.

.........However I was a bit quick. He must have had some neurones still firing off and a bit of residual oxygenated blood upstairs....and he groaned and lifted his arms up and touched my elbow.......just as he got the second zap... which I got as well. Threw me against the back wall of the truck. I arrived at the A&E looking rather pale and spent the rest of the day being monitored.

As for the pt - - he lived - cath lab, plasty etc.

Man.....the sacrifices you make for your pts!!!

In truth it was actually rather dumb. I was a basic at the time and there was no Paramedic backup available (so what else is new). So we loaded and went.
With the zaps - I should have waited a little longer so he was completely still... or is that completely arrested?

200J lesson for the uninitiated. Lived and learnt. Never again.

To say it was like being kicked by a mule is an understatement. 80kg of ambo boofhead launched across the inside of an ambulance by a bit of electricity.

MM

mycrofft · 11-04-2009, 08:24 AM

High voltage seeks teeny tiney holes or even slightly conductive paths.
Off thread: AFSC 90270?

mikie · 11-04-2009, 11:05 AM

Nobody is really sure how it happened, but I was definitely hit. Had a weird feeling for a while inside, despite being such low energy.

johnrsemt · 11-04-2009, 03:42 PM

had an EMT-B get nailed by the patients arm coming off the ground and hitting him (EMT was straddling the arm).

My partner and I pulled a patient out of the front seat of a Pickup truck and laid him on the ground just after it stopped raining. we felt the first 2 shocks through our pants, where are knees were on the ground. the 3 shock we were both squatting on our heels. patient survived and was talking to us on the way to the hospital.

11-04-2009, 05:04 AM	#11
Melbourne MICA Forum Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 219 Training: MICA Paramedic	Ouch! Had a pt once who arrested after an inferior infarct - bradyed out to VF in front of me. Had the pads already so he got zapped 200J>>>>refractory period then back into VF. .........However I was a bit quick. He must have had some neurones still firing off and a bit of residual oxygenated blood upstairs....and he groaned and lifted his arms up and touched my elbow.......just as he got the second zap... which I got as well. Threw me against the back wall of the truck. I arrived at the A&E looking rather pale and spent the rest of the day being monitored. As for the pt - - he lived - cath lab, plasty etc. Man.....the sacrifices you make for your pts!!! In truth it was actually rather dumb. I was a basic at the time and there was no Paramedic backup available (so what else is new). So we loaded and went. With the zaps - I should have waited a little longer so he was completely still... or is that completely arrested? 200J lesson for the uninitiated. Lived and learnt. Never again. To say it was like being kicked by a mule is an understatement. 80kg of ambo boofhead launched across the inside of an ambulance by a bit of electricity. MM

11-04-2009, 08:24 AM	#12
mycrofft "Silly"to"Serious"=0 secs Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Central California Posts: 2,502 Training: Rusty EMT-Ambulance	Physics for USAFMEDIC High voltage seeks teeny tiney holes or even slightly conductive paths. Off thread: AFSC 90270?

11-04-2009, 11:05 AM	#13
mikie Forum Asst. Chief Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Midwest & East Coast Posts: 864 Training: NREMT-B	2 Joules in PALS class Nobody is really sure how it happened, but I was definitely hit. Had a weird feeling for a while inside, despite being such low energy.

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11-04-2009, 03:42 PM	#14
johnrsemt Forum Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Salt Lake CIty, Utah Posts: 171 Training: EMT-Paramedic	had an EMT-B get nailed by the patients arm coming off the ground and hitting him (EMT was straddling the arm). My partner and I pulled a patient out of the front seat of a Pickup truck and laid him on the ground just after it stopped raining. we felt the first 2 shocks through our pants, where are knees were on the ground. the 3 shock we were both squatting on our heels. patient survived and was talking to us on the way to the hospital.