Anyone actually personally experience 2nd hand defib? - EMTLife.com - The #1 Online Forum for EMS-Related Discussion

mycrofft · 11-03-2009, 01:28 AM

As in "Ready....charging....CLICK....CLEAR!"...

Aidey · 11-03-2009, 02:26 AM

I witnessed an ED tech get shocked twice by a pts AICD, but that is as close as I've come.

mycrofft · 11-03-2009, 10:05 AM

...but when they zapped a guy on a metal spinboard in a wet gutter, you can bet it was a chorus line of us getting up and out when they yelled "CLEAR!".

EMSLaw · 11-03-2009, 11:47 AM

That sounds like a good way to create a whole raft of new patients. Some things, you just don't want to f*** around with.

mycrofft · 11-03-2009, 12:13 PM

Walk in "emergencies"...
Knock-kno......

Aidey · 11-03-2009, 03:51 PM

They guy who got shocked by the AICD jumped, and said it was strong enough he could feel it, but it more surprised him than hurt.

usafmedic45 · 11-03-2009, 03:57 PM

I have. Back when I was still working in EMS, I was knocked off a patient in the emergency department after the resident running the resuscitation failed to call "CLEAR". Zero warning at all: He just charged the defib and fired it. Both me and the guy who were bagging got a nasty zap, but I caught the brunt of it (since I didn't have the ET tube and BVM as insulators). It was a little like what happens when you get zapped inadvertently touching a 120 volt electrical cord. Apparently (from what I was told...I'm a little fuzzy on the exact sequence of events) my legs buckled from under me, I went face first into the side of the bed and slid back on the floor. Afterwards, I found myself on the floor and the attending was standing over me going "Are you OK? If you want to punch *the resident* I won't say anything." I was no worse for the wear besides a bloody nose and some aching muscles.

firecoins · 11-03-2009, 03:57 PM

when I was growing up, we were so poor, I had to use my brother's AED. It didn't even fit. Now I am rich enough to own my own AED.

mycrofft · 11-04-2009, 12:29 AM

First time I defibbed a guy his knees came up and whacked me. No zap. I almost remember the two times I got house current, though...

usafmedic45 · 11-04-2009, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mycrofft

First time I defibbed a guy his knees came up and whacked me. No zap. I almost remember the two times I got house current, though...

Yeah, but they were the nitrile variety which apparently do a very good job of insulating apparently because I sure as hell felt it. Hell, for all I know I had a hole in them and hadn't noticed....

11-03-2009, 02:26 AM	#2
Aidey Forum Asst. Chief Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 708 Training: EMT-Paramedic	I witnessed an ED tech get shocked twice by a pts AICD, but that is as close as I've come. __________________ "Dead is dead, it's pretty clear cut" "Yeah, until we show up with drugs and jumper cables and argue about it!"

11-03-2009, 10:05 AM	#3
mycrofft "Silly"to"Serious"=0 secs Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Central California Posts: 2,502 Training: Rusty EMT-Ambulance	I've never seen it... ...but when they zapped a guy on a metal spinboard in a wet gutter, you can bet it was a chorus line of us getting up and out when they yelled "CLEAR!".

11-03-2009, 12:13 PM	#5
mycrofft "Silly"to"Serious"=0 secs Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Central California Posts: 2,502 Training: Rusty EMT-Ambulance	I want to hook up the defibrillator to the doorknob at work. Walk in "emergencies"... Knock-kno......

11-03-2009, 03:51 PM	#6
Aidey Forum Asst. Chief Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 708 Training: EMT-Paramedic	They guy who got shocked by the AICD jumped, and said it was strong enough he could feel it, but it more surprised him than hurt. __________________ "Dead is dead, it's pretty clear cut" "Yeah, until we show up with drugs and jumper cables and argue about it!"

11-03-2009, 03:57 PM	#7
usafmedic45 Forum Asst. Chief Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 627 Training: EMT-Intermediate	I have. Back when I was still working in EMS, I was knocked off a patient in the emergency department after the resident running the resuscitation failed to call "CLEAR". Zero warning at all: He just charged the defib and fired it. Both me and the guy who were bagging got a nasty zap, but I caught the brunt of it (since I didn't have the ET tube and BVM as insulators). It was a little like what happens when you get zapped inadvertently touching a 120 volt electrical cord. Apparently (from what I was told...I'm a little fuzzy on the exact sequence of events) my legs buckled from under me, I went face first into the side of the bed and slid back on the floor. Afterwards, I found myself on the floor and the attending was standing over me going "Are you OK? If you want to punch the resident I won't say anything." I was no worse for the wear besides a bloody nose and some aching muscles. __________________ Steve Former EMT-Intermediate/EMS Instructor/Supervisor Cross-trained as a respiratory therapist and echocardiographer Overheard at Detroit Receiving: "No sir you shouldn't inject heroin into your eye....I don't care that you can see the veins" Last edited by usafmedic45; 11-03-2009 at 03:58 PM..

11-03-2009, 01:28 AM	#1
mycrofft "Silly"to"Serious"=0 secs Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Central California Posts: 2,502 Training: Rusty EMT-Ambulance	Anyone actually personally experience 2nd hand defib? As in "Ready....charging....CLICK....CLEAR!"... Last edited by mycrofft; 11-03-2009 at 01:30 AM..

11-03-2009, 11:47 AM	#4
EMSLaw Forum Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 189 Training: CFR; Attorney	That sounds like a good way to create a whole raft of new patients. Some things, you just don't want to f*** around with.

11-03-2009, 03:57 PM	#8
firecoins Black Sheep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 2,466 Training: NY EMT-P	when I was growing up, we were so poor, I had to use my brother's AED. It didn't even fit. Now I am rich enough to own my own AED. __________________ 2000 B.A. Economics - NYU 2008 Paramedic program - SVCMC EMTs drive ambulances. Paramedics intercept them.

11-04-2009, 12:29 AM	#9
mycrofft "Silly"to"Serious"=0 secs Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Central California Posts: 2,502 Training: Rusty EMT-Ambulance	Oh, USAFMEDIC! Were you wearing gloves? First time I defibbed a guy his knees came up and whacked me. No zap. I almost remember the two times I got house current, though...

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