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zephers · 03-31-2009, 02:18 AM

How many lpm of oxygen would you give a dog or cat(whatever the reason) of any size, if you needed too?

fortsmithman · 03-31-2009, 02:21 AM

I don't know I'm not a veterinarian.

8jimi8 · 03-31-2009, 02:29 AM

how would you determine that they need O2 anyway? mucous membranes ? lol

EMTCop86 · 03-31-2009, 02:42 AM

Why exactly would you be giving a pet oxygen?

aidan · 03-31-2009, 04:27 AM

I don't see any effective means by which any of the artificial O2 supply devices we use could work on dogs: the best thing that an EMT can do is provide mouth to snout CPR. Clear the mouth of any obstructions with a finger sweep, just like in people. Close the mouth, extend the head back (so the neck is straight) and breathe into the nose until chest rises adequately. Release grip of the mouth so the dog can exhale.

No pulse = put the dog on it's right side and start compressions. The amount needed to press down will depend on the size of the dog. Generally 3-4 inches for the bigger dogs, less for smaller ones. Try not to break ribs obviously. Compressions:breath ratio will be 10:1. 10 compressions per 1 breath. Getting to the vet fast enough is gonna be the key.

I have no idea on how to help a cat. We were taught CPR for dogs because while responding to scenes where police dogs may be present, they can sometimes get hurt and need help too.

medic417 · 03-31-2009, 07:58 AM

They do sell pet O2 masks. But we do not carry them nor do we work on pets. If you need them talk to a vet to get the info required so you can help them rather than harm them.

MJordan2121 · 04-02-2009, 12:44 AM

That's out of my Scope of Practice.

Remeber343 · 03-26-2012, 03:36 PM

I would give a dog... Whatever he presented with. I would give a cat.. The boot.

EpiEMS · 03-26-2012, 04:53 PM

I'm quite concerned about possible risk to the provider here...mightn't an anxious dog or cat be aggressive rather than receptive to care?

DesertEMT66 · 03-26-2012, 04:59 PM

The fire department I used to work at carries animal BVMs.

There was a structure fire where the firefighters pulled out a dog during the interior attack. The dog was in full arrest. After compressions and adapting a human BVM to work for the dog they got a pulse back. About 5-10 mins later the dog was running around on scene. A local reporter was there and got video of it. After seeing the video the public wanted us to have animal BVMs on the engine. I believe there are 3 different sizes (cat size, dog size, and one that looks like bear size lol)

03-31-2009, 02:42 AM	#4
EMTCop86 Forum Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 339 Training: NREMT-B	Why exactly would you be giving a pet oxygen? __________________ Livin' the dream! Why is common sense so rare these days? NEVER GIVE UP!!

03-31-2009, 04:27 AM	#5
aidan Forum Crew Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 60	I don't see any effective means by which any of the artificial O2 supply devices we use could work on dogs: the best thing that an EMT can do is provide mouth to snout CPR. Clear the mouth of any obstructions with a finger sweep, just like in people. Close the mouth, extend the head back (so the neck is straight) and breathe into the nose until chest rises adequately. Release grip of the mouth so the dog can exhale. No pulse = put the dog on it's right side and start compressions. The amount needed to press down will depend on the size of the dog. Generally 3-4 inches for the bigger dogs, less for smaller ones. Try not to break ribs obviously. Compressions:breath ratio will be 10:1. 10 compressions per 1 breath. Getting to the vet fast enough is gonna be the key. I have no idea on how to help a cat. We were taught CPR for dogs because while responding to scenes where police dogs may be present, they can sometimes get hurt and need help too. __________________ Why do you want to be an EMT? I can see a hospital from my house!

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03-31-2009, 02:18 AM	#1
zephers Forum Probie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10	Pet BLS How many lpm of oxygen would you give a dog or cat(whatever the reason) of any size, if you needed too?

03-31-2009, 02:21 AM	#2
fortsmithman Premium+ Member Forum Deputy Chief Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fort Smith Northwest Territories Canada Posts: 1,281 Training: Not Enough	I don't know I'm not a veterinarian.

03-31-2009, 02:29 AM	#3
8jimi8 Forum Deputy Chief Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,766 Training: RN, I85 P2S exam8/10	how would you determine that they need O2 anyway? mucous membranes ? lol

04-02-2009, 12:44 AM	#7
MJordan2121 Forum Crew Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Daphne, Alabama Posts: 66 Training: EMT-Paramedic	That's out of my Scope of Practice.

03-26-2012, 03:36 PM	#8
Remeber343 Forum Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 202	I would give a dog... Whatever he presented with. I would give a cat.. The boot.

03-26-2012, 04:53 PM	#9
EpiEMS Forum Deputy Chief Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NY and CT Posts: 1,022 Training: NREMT, CT EMT	I'm quite concerned about possible risk to the provider here...mightn't an anxious dog or cat be aggressive rather than receptive to care?