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  1. J

    Out of area transport

    New update: Got a call from the LA County EMS Program Head. He had spoken with the Deputy Director of Ventura County EMS and discussed the situation in question. In that discussion the attached regulation (Section 2423-1.3 (b), which my management gave as evidence of legality for LA units to...
  2. J

    Out of area transport

    I think we got off on the wrong foot here and the discussion spiraled. Please allow me start over. Thank you. I have looked through my company’s policies and SOP. Aside from generally stating that they will operate within the confines of state and county regulations it didn’t address the...
  3. J

    Out of area transport

    Already set to leave in a few months. Between AMR and PRN, I decided years ago that this was no longer the job it once was. But if not for the schools closing for the pandemic I’d be finished with A&P school & gone already. But I stuck around because it is a paycheck. That said, I admit I have...
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    Out of area transport

    For one I’m already on track for retiring from EMS in a few months, and starting a new career in a different industry. So I’m way ahead of that advice. But I’m investigating this subject not to debate anyone, but because I just want the facts. This isn’t so much a “should I stay or should I go”...
  5. J

    Out of area transport

    Normally, I would agree with you. But County treatment protocols do not cover IFT transport boundaries. And neither do company policies or guidelines. They are written under the assumption that transports are carried out within the county. Plus, when asked, my managers have not been eager to...
  6. J

    Out of area transport

    Then you ought to know better. We work in a field where our actions are evidence based. That’s why we have things like treatment protocols and medical direction. And that the word of a manager of a for profit company isn’t necessarily gospel. Because I’m mature and experienced enough to know who...
  7. J

    Out of area transport

    There are definitive policies that allow for picking up out of county to bring back into LA County, as well as provision for mutual aid requests and disaster responses. No gray areas there. But I’m not finding anything (so far) that has addressed transports that do not involve my accredited...
  8. J

    Out of area transport

    That would definitely simplify things and alleviate this sort of confusion. I don’t see CA eliminating county accreditations anytime soon, tho.
  9. J

    Out of area transport

    Already in process. Just about done with A&P school and will be starting a whole new career. The company is experiencing an exodus due to the shady nature of their business practices. Especially when they don’t readily produce the sort of policies you speak of. That said, do you always trust...
  10. J

    Out of area transport

    I’m not trusting what my company says for several reasons. First, when I first posed the question they were very quick to answer “Yes! Totally legal. Now run the call.” Secondly, when pressed for proof all they could give was anecdotal evidence “I’ve done it before.” And lastly, after several...
  11. J

    Out of area transport

    I’m a medic in Los Angeles County. I presently work for a private IFT company. I was assigned to a transport that picked up and then dropped off at facilities that were both outside of my county. I know I can pick up patients in county and take anywhere outside of county. I also know that some...
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