IM Epi in full arrest with anaphylactic etiology.

Carlos Danger

Forum Deputy Chief
Premium Member
4,513
3,241
113
Push dose adrenaline is a pain and very hard to adjust, for anaphylaxis, asthma, septic shock unresponsive to two or three litres of fluid, and certain bradycardias we put 1 mg into 1 litre of NaCl and run at 2 gtt/s initially and go up/down depending on need. Super easy to make up and super easy to adjust and no fart-arseing around with single bolus aliquots.

The exception is small children who get 1:1,000,000 boluses PRN.

Except now your IVF has epi in it, so you can't run it at whatever rate is otherwise indicated. Unless you are talking about putting it in a second bag, which is no less time consuming than making a syringe of 10mcg/ml and giving 1-2cc boluses.

Just draw 1ml of the normal (1:10,000, or 100mcg/ml) concentration epi into a 10cc syringe and then dilute it with 9cc of IVF from the primary bag. Easy peasy and more precise than eyeballing a drip.

When I was doing sick pediatric cases I would always have 2 syringes of epi ready: one 10mcg/ml and one 100mcg/ml. Very easy to give and titrate, since it takes full effect almost immediately.
 

FiremanMike

Just a dude
1,137
703
113
Except now your IVF has epi in it, so you can't run it at whatever rate is otherwise indicated. Unless you are talking about putting it in a second bag, which is no less time consuming than making a syringe of 10mcg/ml and giving 1-2cc boluses.

Just draw 1ml of the normal (1:10,000, or 100mcg/ml) concentration epi into a 10cc syringe and then dilute it with 9cc of IVF from the primary bag. Easy peasy and more precise than eyeballing a drip.

When I was doing sick pediatric cases I would always have 2 syringes of epi ready: one 10mcg/ml and one 100mcg/ml. Very easy to give and titrate, since it takes full effect almost immediately.

I pushed hard for push dose epi to replace dopamine/epi drip.. In the end, the Chiefs rejected the idea because it was too complicated... Sigh
 

Bosco836

Forum Lieutenant
155
1
18
I realize that this is the ALS section, but how about when working with a BLS rural service with ALS 20 min. away? Would IM epi be worth the time in this anaphylactic arrest scenario?

In Ontario, BLS services have protocols for IM 1:1,000 Epi for Cardiac Arrests where anaphylaxis is suspected to be the causative event.

Reference: Medical Cardiac Arrest Medical Directive - http://www.lhsc.on.ca/About_Us/Base...ctives/SWORBHPPCPMedicalDirectiveBook2015.pdf

Epi.jpg
 
Top