Overtime Pay problems...

Greetings all! My name is Jon. First post, but lurked here a little. I was hoping for some input on a problem I am having. I work for a BLS company in LA County. I had a shift on Saturday, scheduled at 1200 for 8 hours. 3 hours in, Supe calls me and asks if I can finish out a 24 because a crewmember had a family emergency. I agreed, cuz I have trouble saying no. Shift ends at 0700 Sunday. 19 hours worked. I check my timesheet online yesterday and find that the scheduler has overidden the overtime pay to calculate it as a regularly scheduled 24-hour shift, even though it was not a regularly scheduled shift and I am normally paid at Daily 8 OT, so regular 8-hour OT rules. This means I should have 8 hours of regular pay, 4 hours at 1.5 times, and 7 hours at 2-times. Is it right for them to make that change? Do they owe me all that OT pay?

In theory it is possible they do based on CA laws.

However, your questions should be asked of your HR, your supervisor and payroll department first. Once you have that information, you then need to decide if you want to take the butt hurt reply they will give you and go outside and above their head.

What you should not do is come here for answers when you have not exhausted the resources at your place of employment first.

Just saying you would get a lot more accomplished talking with them there, than us here.

Ask your supervisor. My company would give us the time and a half, or double time just as an incentive to fill it.

Honestly, when you work a 24, and a 12 in the same pay period, or days. It makes things really complicated for the timekeeper and payroll, so mistakes will happen.

I already spoke with HR/Supervisor. It was a no-go from them. I came here to get some free advice and I appreciate the input. I did a lot of research on it, and I think they are within the laws.

JonnyBoy said:

I already spoke with HR/Supervisor. It was a no-go from them. I came here to get some free advice and I appreciate the input. I did a lot of research on it, and I think they are within the laws.

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Unfortunately, I would just leave it and if they ever ask you to do OT, explicitly ask them about the pay rate for it, and see if they will text you it. Don't make a big stink about this time and just use it as a lesson learned while applying at the major corporation companies (AMR, Bowers, Etc)

Agreed. Lesson learned.

You could always ask the experts...... And yes, you can inquire anonymously. As the old saying goes, if they have nothing to hide, and are doing nothing wrong, they wouldn't object to discussing it with the proper authorities.

California


Fresno Area Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
906 N Street
Suite 105
Fresno, CA 93721-2246

Phone:
(559) 487-5317
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Nora Pedraza
Assistant District Director

Serving Kern, Santa Barbara, San Luis, Obispo, and Ventura counties and portions of Los Angeles county:
Los Angeles District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
915 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 960
Los Angeles, CA 90017-3446

Phone:
(213) 894-6375
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Kim Chi Bui
District Director

Sacramento District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
2800 Cottage Way, Room W-1836
Sacramento, CA 95825-1886

Phone:
(916) 978-6123
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Richard E. Newton
District Director

Serving Imperial, San Diego and Orange county:
San Diego District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
550 Corporate Center
550 West "C" Street
Suite 990
San Diego, CA 92101

Phone:
(619) 557-5110
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Rodolfo Cortez
District Director

Serving Orange county:
Orange Area Office
770 The City Drive South
Suite 5710
Orange, CA 92868-4954

Phone:
(714) 621-1650
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Tony Pham
Assistant District Director

Serving San Francisco, San Mateo, Napa, Del Norte, Humboldt, Mendocino, Alameda and Contra Costa county:
San Francisco District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
90 7th Street, Suite 12-100
San Francisco, CA 94103-6719

Phone:
(415) 625-7720
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Susana Blanco
District Director

Serving Santa Clara, San Benito, Santa Cruz, Monterey county:
San Jose Area Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
96 North 3rd Street, Suite 400
San Jose, CA 95112-7709

Phone:
(408) 291-7730
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Michael Eastwood
Assistant District Director

Serving San Bernardino county, Riverside County and portions of Los Angeles County:
West Covina District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
100 N. Barranca Street, Suite 850
West Covina, CA 91791

http://www.dol.gov/whd/america2.htm#California

or you can call the state offices and ask them

Los Angeles
320 W. Fourth Street,
Suite 450
Los Angeles, CA 90013
(213) 620-6330
http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/districtoffices.htm

DrParasite said:

You could always ask the experts...... And yes, you can inquire anonymously. As the old saying goes, if they have nothing to hide, and are doing nothing wrong, they wouldn't object to discussing it with the proper authorities.

California


Fresno Area Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
906 N Street
Suite 105
Fresno, CA 93721-2246

Phone:
(559) 487-5317
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Nora Pedraza
Assistant District Director

Serving Kern, Santa Barbara, San Luis, Obispo, and Ventura counties and portions of Los Angeles county:
Los Angeles District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
915 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 960
Los Angeles, CA 90017-3446

Phone:
(213) 894-6375
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Kim Chi Bui
District Director

Sacramento District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
2800 Cottage Way, Room W-1836
Sacramento, CA 95825-1886

Phone:
(916) 978-6123
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Richard E. Newton
District Director

Serving Imperial, San Diego and Orange county:
San Diego District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
550 Corporate Center
550 West "C" Street
Suite 990
San Diego, CA 92101

Phone:
(619) 557-5110
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Rodolfo Cortez
District Director

Serving Orange county:
Orange Area Office
770 The City Drive South
Suite 5710
Orange, CA 92868-4954

Phone:
(714) 621-1650
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Tony Pham
Assistant District Director

Serving San Francisco, San Mateo, Napa, Del Norte, Humboldt, Mendocino, Alameda and Contra Costa county:
San Francisco District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
90 7th Street, Suite 12-100
San Francisco, CA 94103-6719

Phone:
(415) 625-7720
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Susana Blanco
District Director

Serving Santa Clara, San Benito, Santa Cruz, Monterey county:
San Jose Area Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
96 North 3rd Street, Suite 400
San Jose, CA 95112-7709

Phone:
(408) 291-7730
1-866-4-USWAGE
(1-866-487-9243)

Michael Eastwood
Assistant District Director

Serving San Bernardino county, Riverside County and portions of Los Angeles County:
West Covina District Office
US Dept. of Labor
Wage & Hour Division
100 N. Barranca Street, Suite 850
West Covina, CA 91791

http://www.dol.gov/whd/america2.htm#California

or you can call the state offices and ask them

Los Angeles
320 W. Fourth Street,
Suite 450
Los Angeles, CA 90013
(213) 620-6330
http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/districtoffices.htm

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EMS in LA is a very tight knit group with the BS private IFT companies. If they get word of him trying to go after them, he will find himself out of a job and unable to get hired nearly anywhere else. The majority of the IFT's in LA are ran by the mob and are laundering schemes.

exodus said:

EMS in LA is a very tight knit group with the BS private IFT companies. If they get word of him trying to go after them, he will find himself out of a job and unable to get hired nearly anywhere else. The majority of the IFT's in LA are ran by the mob and are laundering schemes.

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That's fine he can than work for any of the major players or go to the media.
My advice is go to the Labor Board. Or go to another company such as the top 5.
AMR
Bowers
Care
Mccormick
Schaefer

Check the attorney website Avvo. It has a place you can ask questions, free, and attorneys reply.

There definitely want to websites out there dedicated just dealing with fire and EMS payroll issues .

exodus said:

EMS in LA is a very tight knit group with the BS private IFT companies. If they get word of him trying to go after them, he will find himself out of a job and unable to get hired nearly anywhere else. The majority of the IFT's in LA are ran by the mob and are laundering schemes.

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That is why you inquire, and even file the complaint anonymously.... If they are doing it to one person, they are probably doing it to many, and they won't just ask about one instance, they will ask for multiple questions, and you don't have to give your name.

Agencies and companies often take advantage of ignorant personnel, and people who are too afraid to come forward when something isn't right. And sometimes, the companies have a misinterpretation of the way the law works. Let the Labor board investigate, they are really good at making sure everything is legit, esp when the company isn't complying with the proper hour and wage laws.